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  • S2000 NA build? or just repair to stock?

    Looks like I'll need to replace a piston. Bad Burgoon, no beer.

    Anyone want to try to sell me on a NA s2000 build that will pass the smog sniffer and OBD2 check?

    Or should I just repair to stock?

  • #2
    Inb4 Richard to recommend Tony Fuchs.
    I'd check with him on smog legal build options first.
    Last edited by Blackbird; 02-06-2015, 02:29 PM.
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    • #3
      I think Hondas still sells F22C's and you might be able to find cheap in a junkyard. least expensive option (not including your time) is buying a wrecked AP2 cheap off copart et.al, taking the engine, rear suspension and selling off the rest for a near break even. We do this all the time with Miatas.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by emilio700 View Post
        I think Hondas still sells F22C's and you might be able to find cheap in a junkyard. least expensive option (not including your time) is buying a wrecked AP2 cheap off copart et.al, taking the engine, rear suspension and selling off the rest for a near break even. We do this all the time with Miatas.
        That's a vote against doing any sort of engine build.

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        • #5
          in before someone says K24 swap.........

          Rylan just did that ?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by bellwilliam View Post
            in before someone says K24 swap.........

            Rylan just did that ?
            Why K24?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by robburgoon View Post
              Why K24?
              Don't even consider it. You'll be right back where you're at now in less than a few track days.

              I'm with Emilio, get a new motor. I'm not a fan of rebuilds on these motors.
              Do you understand?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tq3z View Post
                Don't even consider it. You'll be right back where you're at now in less than a few track days.

                I'm with Emilio, get a new motor. I'm not a fan of rebuilds on these motors.
                I've never touched a bottom end before, so I'll probably attempt the piston change (cheap) just for fun and have the head serviced (cheap). If I fail, I'll do the Emilio plan.

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                • #9
                  Is the cylinder damaged?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JJ1 View Post
                    Is the cylinder damaged?
                    No, walls are pretty much fine, just damaged piston and some scars on the head. I think the head scars can be smoothed out, but a crater near the edge of the piston is bad juju when I turn up the heat.

                    I understand that you don't wanna hone the fiber liners on hondas, so gonna be a new/used piston and new rings I think.


                    Maybe reuse rings since no hone.... hmmm...
                    Last edited by robburgoon; 02-06-2015, 09:14 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I bought a 2005 s2000 from copart a couple of days ago. It's low mileage, 38k, and it wasn't cheap. I don't know what going rate on s2000 powertrains but I bet it's much easier cheaper to just find a used motor. I haven't considered parting out the one I just bought.
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                      • #12
                        Just fit it with NOS, dude. Gotta make sure you don't blow the manifold off, though.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by robburgoon View Post
                          No, walls are pretty much fine, just damaged piston and some scars on the head. I think the head scars can be smoothed out, but a crater near the edge of the piston is bad juju when I turn up the heat.

                          I understand that you don't wanna hone the fiber liners on hondas, so gonna be a new/used piston and new rings I think.


                          Maybe reuse rings since no hone.... hmmm...
                          You are correct, you don't want to get involved in the bottom end with these motors, just swap it.
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                          • #14
                            Rob-

                            It will be virtually impossible for you to rebuild an S2000 engine. The factory tolerances are too tight. Not like the slop tolerances in a Miata motor . . .
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                            • #15
                              Interesting, looks like honda only sells pistons in sets of 4? They sort by weight maybe?

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