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    Some FR-S test results from Buttonwillow 13CW this weekend. In each case, I did maybe 1-2 hot laps then came in. I had a total of 8-10 full laps for the entire day, 1-2 laps at at time then in for changes. I had to adapt to whatever changes we made on the out lap, go for it then back in for more adjustments or switch drivers. The car's owner, Matt Andrews, did the bulk of the driving. So most of my laps had some little errors, or traffic. I'd say each lap time posted here left 1s on the table in the same conditions. All runs 100% as delivered from dealer unless otherwise mentioned.

    1. 100% bone stock + Carbotech XP10/XP8 pads, 85° 2:12.1
    2. 255/40/17 RS3 on 17x9, Subaru "crash" alignment bolts (add -.7°), 90°, 2:07.1
    3. Same as set up #2, + prototype AST 4150's, 93°, 2:03.75. This lap had three big mistakes.

    Too hot and ran out of time to test much else. Lots left on the table. Sub 2:00 car on RS3's in cool weather with a few tweaks to the coilover setup. Wanted to test the Ventus TD C71's but didn't get them in time. That would have been high 1:58's I think. The FR-S is fast. It's much closer to an AP2 than an NA/NB or even NC. It may turn out to be just as fast or even faster than an AP2 for the same mods. Tough to get an AP2 really fast without a wing or geometry modifications. The FR-S will probably end up more like the NB in that it just needs coilovers, alignment and wheels to go fast.

    I'll leave it up to Matt to fill in the blanks and add the cool video from the igloo cases stuck all over the car. He'll be campaigning the car in TT probably so I'll guess he won't divulge the entire setup we are coming up with

    Look for full report at his blog FEcompetition | automotive exploits

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    I only had one short video of an outlap on my GoPro and shaky mount. This was setup #2 while we played with air pressures so I'm still feeling it out when the checkered flies. The rest of the videos are on Matt's cameras so those will have to wait until he gets back into town next week. Interesting note, he used his trick igloo cases for iPhone and either clamps or suctions mounts on the body.



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  • #2
    Wow my memory was so far away it's scary.

    Nice testing, great results.

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    • #3
      nice to finally see real numbers for this car

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      • #4
        I eat my words. Looks to be a great car. S2000 killer? =0
        Do you understand?

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        • #5
          Basically a hardtop 2000 without vtec, brakes fixed (s2k weakness), better rear aero.

          Mike said it the best: FRS is better than sum of its parts. Looking at spec: McPherson strut, not so hot HP/weight ratio, rough revving boxer engine, crappy Dyno graph (with that big dip mid rpm), one would never of guessed.
          Last edited by bellwilliam; 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by tq3z View Post
            I eat my words. Looks to be a great car. S2000 killer? =0
            S2000 killer, I don't think so. Ultimately it has worse HP/weight ratio than a s2k. FRS is easier to drive, but I would guess about a second slower than a S.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by bellwilliam View Post
              S2000 killer, I don't think so. Ultimately it has worse HP/weight ratio than a s2k. FRS is easier to drive, but I would guess about a second slower than a S.
              One second is basically the difference in drivers. I would say the cars are very equal if this holds up being the case.

              Maybe has something to do with the fact that its not a vert
              Do you understand?

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              • #8
                That is faster than I expected as well. Good to see some real numbers.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bellwilliam View Post
                  S2000 killer, I don't think so. Ultimately it has worse HP/weight ratio than a s2k. FRS is easier to drive, but I would guess about a second slower than a S.
                  I'd rather have a good used S2K for $12K that this new for $26K.

                  And I'd wait for Subaru's turbo version (hope hope hope).
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                  • #10
                    so who else besides me wants a frs/brz wagon for a daily? low cg, rwd, 5 doors, stick.
                    not going to set lap records so i wouldn't mind a little more weight for a bigger car.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by julian View Post
                      so who else besides me wants a frs/brz wagon for a daily? low cg, rwd, 5 doors, stick.
                      not going to set lap records so i wouldn't mind a little more weight for a bigger car.
                      Me. I don't think I'll be able to sell the idea of the coupe to the Mrs.
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                      • #12
                        CTS-V wagon. The ultimate family vehicle?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Red_5 View Post
                          Me. I don't think I'll be able to sell the idea of the coupe to the Mrs.
                          Yea me too. That rear facing baby seat is tough on car choices.
                          Elise
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                          • #14
                            Cool cool, nice work Emilio & Matt.

                            Would love a turbo "STi" version of this car.
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                            • #15
                              to quote Clarkson

                              POWWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

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