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  • emilio700
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    Originally posted by Matt Andrews View Post
    I don't like the idea of using an EVO.
    +1

    ABS
    AWD
    AYC
    ACD

    YUK

    In my experience, the Evo does the best job of masking bad inputs and poor lines of any current production car. Perhaps not the ideal choice to determine who is skilled and who is merely aggressive. I guess it'll have one of those semi-auto transmissions that doesn't require the driver to match revs while threshold trail braking.

    Most likely, it's just what the magazine has available. In any case, the driver that adapts the best will have the lowest lap times regardless of what the vehicle is. The differences may just be a lot smaller with a car that kinda drives itself.

    The Z06, OTOH, is like a big, stinkin fast Miata. Drive sloppy or pick bad lines and you go slow.

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  • VagaXt
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    BTW, I vote for this battle to take place on Oct. 18, since it'll be cooler for everyone to race.

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  • VagaXt
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    Originally posted by Matt Andrews View Post
    I kind of think it would be cool to see trackhq rep'd by guys that dont make pretty regular media appearances. Having drivers at have reputations already outside of track hq win this thing would be kind of anti climatic. But to have guys like Clint, rob, William, sonny, and AJ represent the group would be a more compelling outcome IMO. They are all fast. (not intentionally leaving anyone off my list of fast guys here - these are just examples of guys i know and think of off the top of my head ) I mean, if the top 'prize' is being a test driver for them, why not send people that would actually appreciate the honor?

    Just a thought...
    I like this idea too.

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  • Johnny_Se7en
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    Originally posted by Olitho View Post
    "If the bumper fits you must...." Oh, wait a minute that quote is synonomous with another travesty.

    I think justice was served... late but served.

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  • Olitho
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    Originally posted by SeanB View Post

    "If the bumper fits you must...." Oh, wait a minute that quote is synonomous with another travesty.

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  • robburgoon
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    Originally posted by Richard EVO View Post
    I don't mean to leave anyone out (except Rob, of course ).
    Bestest faux uncle EVAR!

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  • SeanB
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    Originally posted by Richard EVO View Post
    and it might be something else.
    I hope it's this tastefully modified, corvette inspired, racing car vehicle.

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  • Richard EVO
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    The cars are picked and brought to the event by the Magazine. It might be an Evo X and a C6 Z06, and it might be something else. We don't control that.

    What we do control is which members here drive in the Challenge. I think we need to put up our best drivers who are legitimate trackHQ members and not ringers. That includes Billy, Charles, Matt, Ryan, Oli, Emilio and Jeff, among others. I don't mean to leave anyone out (except Rob, of course ).

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  • SeanB
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    I'm in.

    Evo X may not be as easy as it seems to drive QUICK on a factory suspension. Fast yes. But quick is different, especially with a single make competition.

    A few notes from first hand experience here, having competed and/or instructed with STI and EVO (among other cars): Yes they are capable. But pushy 3,500lb cars masquerading as race cars are not precision instruments. These cars do not punish bad habits with offs and spins as harshly as others. The setup+electronics help keep the car on the track. But poor driving will be punished with poor lap times, just the same as any other car. The pros will still acclimate faster than the enthusiasts. In a single make/class the driver differences will be apparent. A spread of multiple seconds on lap times will not be surprising.

    Either way, sounds like a hell of a good way to speed a day.

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  • BigMac88
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    Can't wait to see this go down

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  • robburgoon
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    Originally posted by Bueller View Post
    For AWD or FWD cars, that have been setup so that it drives relatively easy, just counter and keep your foot in it. But there is a balance you need to find. If its setup to be twitchy you can still pretty much do the same thing no matter if its AWD or FWD. But if youre driving an AWD car that is snappy, you are pretty much toast. If you guys really want it to be challenging, i think you guys should have it purposely setup so that it is not only unpredictable, but also extremely snappy.
    Not sure if I want to make a big top heavy car "snappy" "sky-dirt-sky-dirt-sky-dirt oh man this is gonna hurt!"

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  • Bueller
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    Originally posted by robburgoon View Post
    I'm just joking around since I haven't tracked FWD, let alone AWD. If it gets scary you hit the gas harder? I think my right foot might refuse the order!

    I'd be happy to beat their lap time in a mail truck, schoolbus, Koenigseggisseggggnignigsegigisegggg or whatever.
    For AWD or FWD cars, that have been setup so that it drives relatively easy, just counter and keep your foot in it. But there is a balance you need to find. If its setup to be twitchy you can still pretty much do the same thing no matter if its AWD or FWD. But if youre driving an AWD car that is snappy, you are pretty much toast. If you guys really want it to be challenging, i think you guys should have it purposely setup so that it is not only unpredictable, but also extremely snappy.

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  • robburgoon
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    Originally posted by Bueller View Post
    Issue is that most of the guys here have experience with various types of cars. And its been noted that one of the cars thats being submitted is an Evo X. Who knows what cars will be used, if this even happens, but thats whats been noted thus far. Everyone knows that the Evo is easy to drive (due to its FWD type characteristics). Even more so if you set it up so that it is easy to drive. Im saying that it sounds to me that some of the guys are worried that the Evo will close that gap between someone who has experience with a Miata, S2K, Vette, Lotus, 350Z...vs someone who doesnt. And the guys with less experience may only be a bit slower than the more experienced guys. If thats the case, purposely setup the Evo so that it is unpredictable and extremely snappy.
    I'm just joking around since I haven't tracked FWD, let alone AWD. If it gets scary you hit the gas harder? I think my right foot might refuse the order!

    I'd be happy to beat their lap time in a mail truck, schoolbus, Koenigseggisseggggnignigsegigisegggg or whatever.

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  • Bueller
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    Originally posted by jnathan68 View Post
    Maybe the editor of the magazine should just go out and buy a couple old cheapo cars...now that would be fun

    But really, I think that if they have a couple of decent performance cars as I believe was the plan, it should even out the playing field. To me the idea of being a good driver is the ability to hop in any car, and with very little track time, be running quick laps.
    Issue is that most of the guys here have experience with various types of cars. And its been noted that one of the cars thats being submitted is an Evo X. Who knows what cars will be used, if this even happens, but thats whats been noted thus far. Everyone knows that the Evo is easy to drive (due to its FWD type characteristics). Even more so if you set it up so that it is easy to drive. Im saying that it sounds to me that some of the guys are worried that the Evo will close that gap between someone who has experience with a Miata, S2K, Vette, Lotus, 350Z...vs someone who doesnt. And the guys with less experience may only be a bit slower than the more experienced guys. If thats the case, purposely setup the Evo so that it is unpredictable and extremely snappy.

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  • jnathan68
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    Originally posted by Bueller View Post
    Evos with OEM suspension are typically very easy to drive because they essentially behave like FWD cars. Evos with modified suspensions and diffs are a different story. Furthermore, setting up a car for time attack is different than setting up a car for a +35min race. But that also depends on how youre having it setup. You can setup an Evo to be extremely snappy and uncomfortable if you want. Basically, if you want, you can set it up to be as catastrophic in nature as you please.

    As for the Evo X, ive never had the opportunity to drive one, but have sat in 2 on track. They are different to me. The Evo X, based on my limited experience, will make a hero out of just about anyone.

    You guys are getting awfully picky. Difficulty is that a lot of you guys say that you guys have experience with various types of cars. So its not like you guys can ask for a car that the majority have not driven. Why dont you guys ask them to supply a car that is very difficult to drive. And then you guys can have someone purposely set it up poorly so that it is even more difficult to drive. Make the car unpredictable, and super snappy. I would think that twitchy cars are easier to drive, but when a car is unpredictably snappy, thats a different story.
    Maybe the editor of the magazine should just go out and buy a couple old cheapo cars...now that would be fun

    But really, I think that if they have a couple of decent performance cars as I believe was the plan, it should even out the playing field. To me the idea of being a good driver is the ability to hop in any car, and with very little track time, be running quick laps.

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