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  • Originally posted by Matt Andrews View Post
    now that we are getting off topic, "pro" is almost as inappropriately used of a term as "race" on car forums.

    HPDE and time attack aren't a "race". And "pro's" that don't pay their bills and live off of an income made from racing or testing cars are not professionals. Not taking away from talented people here or those who have worked with magazine staffs. Just kind of a pet peeve of mine - kind of like saying "good" when you should use "well", or leaving dangling participles at the end of sentances...

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    • Originally posted by VagaXt View Post
      "Sentences..." :P

      But yeah, I agree with you on the "race" and "pro" definitions.
      haha. spelling however, is not a pet peeve of mine... :P
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      • Originally posted by Matt Andrews View Post
        now that we are getting off topic, "pro" is almost as inappropriately used of a term as "race" on car forums.

        HPDE and time attack aren't a "race". And "pro's" that don't pay their bills and live off of an income made from racing or testing cars are not professionals. Not taking away from talented people here or those who have worked with magazine staffs. Just kind of a pet peeve of mine
        +1. I couldn't have said it better. I wonder if the Magazine's "pros" are really pros under that definition? Billy Johnson is a pro. I don't actually know if Charles Ng is. (Is that a dangling participle?)

        I think Micky Grana is one of the Magazine pros. But he makes his living running Chuckwalla Valley Raceway, as far as I know. I don't think he makes a living as a race car driver.
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        • By definition all of the Magazine Pros either get paid to drive for the magazine or paid to drive. Therefor making them Pros.

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          • Who cares!!! This will be a lot of fun either way. And it'll get the word out about TrackHQ.com.
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            • Troy Castaneda is listed on the Auto Eclectic website as one of their "pro" drivers.

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              • Originally posted by DocNrock View Post
                Troy Castaneda is listed on the Auto Eclectic website as one of their "pro" drivers.
                Seriously, who is Troy Castaneda? Is this him?

                To the right of The Sheriff. Isn't everyone?

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                • Originally posted by Olitho View Post
                  Seriously, who is Troy Castaneda? Is this him?

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                  and Besides being paid by auto eclectic, I don't think he fits the given definition here for a "Pro".
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                  • Originally posted by J. Tyler View Post
                    Who cares!!! This will be a lot of fun either way. And it'll get the word out about TrackHQ.com.
                    Agreed
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                    • Originally posted by SIK02SS View Post
                      Troy Castaneda - News

                      and Besides being paid by auto eclectic, I don't think he fits the given definition here for a "Pro".
                      I agree. He does not make a living racing cars. He also looks about 14 on that website. I think Oli found a picture of his great-grandmother.
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                      2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 6-MT - when I need a backseat, 4-doors, or a real trunk, and still want to haul ass . . .

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                      • Originally posted by Richard EVO View Post
                        I agree. He does not make a living racing cars. He also looks about 14 on that website. I think Oli found a picture of his great-grandmother.
                        I think Micky Grana who runs the track has the automatic advantage though...dare I say it: an unfair advantage
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                        • Originally posted by SIK02SS View Post
                          I think Micky Grana who runs the track has the automatic advantage though...dare I say it: an unfair advantage
                          That's just trackHQ's tough luck. If we want to have Billy represent us, they should be able to have Micky represent the Magazine.
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                          2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 6-MT - when I need a backseat, 4-doors, or a real trunk, and still want to haul ass . . .

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                          • Originally posted by Surfevo View Post
                            By definition all of the Magazine Pros either get paid to drive for the magazine or paid to drive. Therefor making them Pros.
                            I guess we have different views on the definition of "pro". honestly, I never looked at the list of drivers for your site - so I wasn't and am not speaking of the drivers for your mag specifically. If you have a day job, or mommy and daddy have deep pockets which allow you to focus on racing and build out a pretty website, you aren't a pro. I don't care how many times someone has given you a check that doesn't cover the expense of racing and your daily life bills.

                            Like I said - it doesn't mean you aren't fast as there are LOTS of talented drivers that haven't gotten the lucky break to make a living doing it.

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                            • Originally posted by Richard EVO View Post
                              That's just trackHQ's tough luck. If we want to have Billy represent us, they should be able to have Micky represent the Magazine.
                              difference is, I will be quite suprised if Billy will fly back from North Carolina for this, while Micky is probably pretty near by the track. I wouldn't call it an unfair advantage, but if we are using his car at his track, he will be set up with just about every advantage you could hope for...

                              but who cares? This should just be for fun. A magazine needs entertaining articles, if they are faster or slower doesn't really change their credibility with readers IMO.
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                              • Originally posted by Matt Andrews View Post
                                difference is, I will be quite suprised if Billy will fly back from North Carolina for this, while Micky is probably pretty near by the track. I wouldn't call it an unfair advantage, but if we are using his car at his track, he will be set up with just about every advantage you could hope for...

                                but who cares? This should just be for fun. A magazine needs entertaining articles, if they are faster or slower doesn't really change their credibility with readers IMO.
                                I was joking about the unfair advantage really. It wouldn't stop me from competing at the best of my ability if I were somehow chosen for it. I've competed against "Pro's" a few times over the last few years and have done pretty well against them thus far. Given a day of testing (which it looks like there is), I don't think I'll have any problem learning the track to run it well when given my 4 laps
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