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    I've owned some japanese cars like MS3, NA miata, trying to get something different and interesting.

    New MINi JCW comes with 230hp 2.0t,236lb ft, 2845lbs(exact same weight as S2000), brembo BBK with brake duct
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    Msrp@30k...
    But I'll wait for a used one for around 25k and plan to sell my FRS in future.
    What do you guys think?
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    Actually I don't know anyone racing it and haven't seen any JCW yet on track.image.jpg
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    What about something like an S2000 or Miata for half the price of the Mini?
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    The answer is ALWAYS Miata.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    What about something like an S2000 or Miata for half the price of the Mini?
    Used ND Miata with LSD,low mile AP2 are at the same price range around 22k-25k
    Used 2015-16 JCW and new 2018 fiesta st is also around 25k.
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    Unless you need a hatchback, something in rear-wheel drive would be better, especially if you plan to do track days with it.

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    Even C5 Z06s can be had for $15k now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    Unless you need a hatchback, something in rear-wheel drive would be better, especially if you plan to do track days with it.
    Yea..I need a practical car such as hatchback. I wish my FRS could be a hatch. I know I could use a civic as daily and buy S2000 for track but I love to drive them everyday even with manual, shifting gears even with heavy traffic
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    We just bought our second Mini Cooper S. A 2013 R56. These are really fun cars on the street and have an amazing amount of room inside for a small car making for a great street car. Awesome gas mileage as well. The first Mini (2008 S) committed suicide by killing a deer. I should have bought the car back and fixed it but at the time the insurance settlement was so good we just grabbed the check and ran. I don't find fwd to be much of an issue on the street. On track fwd may be more of an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markn View Post
    We just bought our second Mini Cooper S. A 2013 R56. These are really fun cars on the street and have an amazing amount of room inside for a small car making for a great street car. Awesome gas mileage as well. The first Mini (2008 S) committed suicide by killing a deer. I should have bought the car back and fixed it but at the time the insurance settlement was so good we just grabbed the check and ran. I don't find fwd to be much of an issue on the street. On track fwd may be more of an issue.
    How do you like the mini JCW?
    I'm comparing JCW to the 2018 fiesta st, 1.5t 200hp..35mpg on highway? I test drove the last gen. The handling is at least as good as my FRS. I was really impressed.
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    We never had a JCW. Only Cooper S's. The first S had the sport suspension. Very firm. I don't know that I would want more than that suspension on a street car. The current S does not have the sport option and is noticably softer (still very firm) than the first car. Too early to tell on the current Mini but the first one I beat the living crap out of it whenever I drove it and could not get less than 30mpg no matter what I did. Take that you Prius owners!

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    My daily is a well sorted mazda 2. It's an absolute blast on the street, auto-x, and windy mountain roads. I took it to a track night event and was amazed at how not fun it was compared to my miata track car. And that was on a low hp friendly track (atlanta motorsports park).
    I think you should try and find a rwd hatch/wagon if you must have the room. IS300 wagon (apparently super rare in a manual, but I've heard they are a blast on track), bmw wagon, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jqsti2015 View Post
    Yea..I need a practical car such as hatchback. I wish my FRS could be a hatch. I know I could use a civic as daily and buy S2000 for track but I love to drive them everyday even with manual, shifting gears even with heavy traffic
    Don't laugh, but maybe an E46 wagon with a manual transmission?

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    Elephant in the room: Mini reliability - one of the worst
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    Quote Originally Posted by markn View Post
    We never had a JCW. Only Cooper S's. The first S had the sport suspension. Very firm. I don't know that I would want more than that suspension on a street car. The current S does not have the sport option and is noticably softer (still very firm) than the first car. Too early to tell on the current Mini but the first one I beat the living crap out of it whenever I drove it and could not get less than 30mpg no matter what I did. Take that you Prius owners!

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    Umm. As a previous Prius owner. How is 30mpg better than Prius 50mpg ? In traffic, 70mpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeballs View Post
    My daily is a well sorted mazda 2. It's an absolute blast on the street, auto-x, and windy mountain roads. I took it to a track night event and was amazed at how not fun it was compared to my miata track car. And that was on a low hp friendly track (atlanta motorsports park).
    I think you should try and find a rwd hatch/wagon if you must have the room. IS300 wagon (apparently super rare in a manual, but I've heard they are a blast on track), bmw wagon, etc.
    What do you think it's the reason why it is not fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    Don't laugh, but maybe an E46 wagon with a manual transmission?
    Thx for the recommendation
    E46 wagon seems to be heavy compared to 2700-2800lbs fiesta st and JCW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmoe Money View Post
    The answer is ALWAYS Miata.
    Yea I know...but new miata with LSD is expensive now. I saw some paying 35k OTD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jqsti2015 View Post
    Yea I know...but new miata with LSD is expensive now. I saw some paying 35k OTD.
    My recommendation is never to buy a new car if it is intended for track day use, even in a part-time role. I know some people are tracking new cars, but I would hope they did not go into the purchase with the intention of tracking the car. Personally I would be a used and depreciated car rather than beating up on a showroom car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    Umm. As a previous Prius owner. How is 30mpg better than Prius 50mpg ? In traffic, 70mpg
    30 plus w smile > 50 and bored. Soul matters. I spend way too much time behind the wheel to make it all about fuel economy. A factor yes, but a relatively small one for me.
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    Keep the FRS, buy a used 4 door Honda/Toyota as your daily.

    -> Owns FRS and Fiesta ST
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