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    I wonder who if anyone is continuing development now on that version. As you may know Bowlby is now on this side.... Under Nissan contract and the new car for garage 56 is close to first testing...
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    Deltawing coupe runs on track | Racecar Engineering

    I've read somewhere that the car now runs a Mazda based MZR engine, so much for that Nissan "commitment".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
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    I've read somewhere that the car now runs a Mazda based MZR engine, so much for that Nissan "commitment".
    Nissan has nothing to do with that car now. It's Don Paniz deal. They parted ways with the US delta wing program (orig constructed by AAR). Bowlby is in two year contract with Nissan and developing a new car for the garage 56 entry which you may have seen some PR about as being electric powered. It's being constructed at Nismo R&D and testing publicly at Fuji speedway JAF GP here shortly.
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    I was being a bit sarcastic, if my memory serves Nissan never really was deeply involved in the project, they came into the picture when the car was already most of the way there and slapped their name all over the thing for some cash injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    and slapped their name all over the thing .
    And their super advanced,undestructible engine

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    I'll give the Deltawing guys that, that the new coupe looks much safer for the driver for when the inevitable punt-off occurs.

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    I just don't understand race cars having front wheels at approximately the same distance from each other since forever, and then this DeltaWing comes out with the front wheels so close together they almost are one center front wheel, which from a common sense standpoint seems unstable. Can someone who understands race car vehicle dynamics better than me please explain this? Thanks!
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    An engine and cash for major sponsor is pretty standard...
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    Richard, think of it as a long torque arm just like a long wrench vs. a stubby.
    With 70% of the weight on the rear axle, having smaller front tires that are far at the front works well enough because there's less weight.
    A more extreme example of the same idea is a top fuel dragster, where the front tires are so far ahead and there's so little weight that even the bicycle tires that they run upfront are enough to keep the car going straight despite the 7000 ponies that the rear tires are spinning the earth with..

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    Watching this video made me think of how strange the DW must be for the drivers at first.
    You *need* to miss every apex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Richard, think of it as a long torque arm just like a long wrench vs. a stubby.
    With 70% of the weight on the rear axle, having smaller front tires that are far at the front works well enough because there's less weight.
    A more extreme example of the same idea is a top fuel dragster, where the front tires are so far ahead and there's so little weight that even the bicycle tires that they run upfront are enough to keep the car going straight despite the 7000 ponies that the rear tires are spinning the earth with..
    I think of it as the ultimate setup to get power down exit speed. I wonder if they have to trail brake the heck out of it to get it to turn?
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    It doesn't even look like you need lights on your car for that race. Skip the lights, install a lower amp alternator and gain a couple of horsepower.

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