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    Video of the reveal at SEMA. I've only watched a little bit of it but might be some more details about the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    In a first for Mazda, the Global MX-5 Cup racecars will be sold “ready to race” from a single supplier.
    Does anyone else finds this to be incredibly bad?
    If I was the owner of one of the race shops that have built their business around building these cars, I would consider it a game changing blow to have Mazda forcing me to buy my own damn racecars from a different shop that built them for Mazda.

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    I think that having spec parts and sealed engines is the way to go.
    Make sure everyone is building to the same spec, absolutely.
    But taking away the business from a good number of shops and give the contract to one builder is awful.
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    $85k would be way too much IMO. If it's in the 50's or 60's it would have to be considered!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    I think that having spec parts and sealed engines is the way to go.
    Make sure everyone is building to the same spec, absolutely.
    But taking away the business from a good number of shops and give the contract to one builder is awful.
    Spec engine ? All those spec engine builders will be going nuts !!
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    Pro MX5 Cup has always had sealed/spec engines. Some more spec than others
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    Quote Originally Posted by markn View Post
    Pro MX5 Cup has always had sealed/spec engines. Some more spec than others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Does anyone else finds this to be incredibly bad?

    I don't agree with the decision to go with one builder, either, for the reasons you mentioned, but it is only for MX-5 Cup, which in the US was what? Less than 50 cars? Anyone can still build one for club racing or Continental, etc.

    It looks as though MX-5 Cup is going to expand globally, so there is at least one shop out there that agrees with the decision.

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    Why would anyone do this when we have sm, and the trackhq favorite spm?
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    Nice looking new cars, perhaps more sane ruleset than SM. SPM basically doesn't exist unless you are in SoCal.

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    Pro MX5 Cup has a much more restrictive rule set than Spec Miata (SM). Pro MX5 Cup is a truly spec class compared to SM. The analog for MX5 Cup in the club racing world is the SM5 class. A common misconception is that Spec Miata (SM) is a spec class. SM is not a spec class and nor was it ever intended to be so. The SM class name causes much consternation as many assume that SM is is a 'spec' class. Think similar vs spec and it all makes much more sense. Over time though the class is indeed moving more towards being a 'spec' class. Whether that is good or not who can say. It is still the best racing available for club racers period.

    It is very hard to manage SM (1990-2005 Miata) with 5 different variations of Miata involved but the powers that be have done a phenomenal job. That is where guys like John Mueller (weekendracer.com) come in to make it all work. Me, I am stil stuck to the ceiling on the latest rules fiasco but 2015 beckons and racers will be racers.

    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    Nice looking new cars, perhaps more sane ruleset than SM. SPM basically doesn't exist unless you are in SoCal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    $85k would be way too much IMO. If it's in the 50's or 60's it would have to be considered!
    I would guess that the complete race car itself should be able to come in at less than $60k. A base stock car shouldn't be more than $25k retail so that would leave $35k to build in the safety gear and get the spec parts installed. I think the build is relatively limited at least in past MX-5 Cup cars.
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    After looking at this video, he only way to ensure uniformity is build the race cars in the same production line as the street cars, with the last bits of safety equipment done on the side.
    If nothing happens and there is no one around why did it not happen?

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    Just a heads up guys inside word from some of the mazda crew has this thing coming in a little shy of $50k new. Not as bad as one might expect.
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    I have heard less than 50k as well. Lets hope that holds true.
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    Car and Driver says under $45K, not bad at all for a brand new race car.

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