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    Default Goodwin Racing Turbo NC Gets Resurrected

    This project has been sitting in the back of the shop for a couple years. This is one of two cars that GWR acquired a long while ago from a Formula Drift team. Many are familiar with the sister car which was stripped down and built into Brian’s yellow “NC Light” AKA the Banana. That car was all about low weight and tons of mechanical grip. It used a naturally aspirated 2.5L built for World Challenge racing and went on to set several records with Brian behind the wheel.

    While the Banana was being raced, this second car was getting built in the background, but this one with a turbo. If the Banana was a ridiculous assembly of awesome stuff, this turbo car is perhaps even more ridiculous (In a good way). However, it’s never been to the racetrack. It made good power on the dyno and needed more fuel to go higher, but as sometimes happens at a busy shop, the project got sidelined.

    Fast forward to now and here she is, just dragged out into the sunlight:



    We're going to dust this thing off and finish it. We’ll update the fuel system, feed it some corn, and see what it’ll do. Whatever power it makes, we’ll call it good and take it racing.

    Because the car never made it past the dyno testing stage, there are a lot of loose ends to be tied up. My task is to take this awesome assembly of parts that it currently is and give it some purpose and direction, some elbow grease and perhaps a bit of my own flavor and make a finished, fast car out of it. Might as well share it with all of you guys while I'm at it!

    The (short) list of what we’re working with: stripped/seam welded/caged tub, Cosworth 2.3L dry sump engine, Jenvey intake manifold/TB, turbo system, side-exit exhaust, Motec ECU, custom wiring harness, rear-mount oil cooler, AIM Dash, Tilton pedal set, Ohlins R&T Race coilovers, Enkei RPF1 18x10s…

    We’ll be able to apply much of what was learned with making the Banana fast directly to this, but with more power and more aero it should be quite a recipe for some fun!

    She is now on a lift in the shop, parts are being ordered, and a plan of attack is forming.
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    Work began on the car yesterday, will get some pics of the stuff being done soon. In the meantime, here are a few shots of the interior as it sits.

    It's a bit rough, but I can hear Han Solo faintly.. "she may not look like much but she's got it where it counts"







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    Those pedals are making me feel funny in my cargo shorts.
    Very nice!

    Are there any target power numbers in mind?
    Or too soon to tell?

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    "Granny Lift"?

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    How many times was this former Allstars chassis wrecked? This will be an interesting build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmoe Money View Post
    Are there any target power numbers in mind?
    Or too soon to tell?
    We don't have a power target, but we'll have numbers soon because we have a target shakedown at an autocross that is two weeks away. Fuel parts just arrived, we'll have it tuned and dyno'd before then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    "Granny Lift"?
    Granny Shift. Not sure why, on one hand the Cosworth motor should be able to take everything you throw at it, but on the other hand I don't even want to tally up what the cost would be of replacing it. Perhaps those conflicting factors occurred to them as well

    All I know is I'm looking forward to getting out a heat gun and removing that from the pretty carbon fiber dash (many things to do before we worry about stickers though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force McCocken View Post
    How many times was this former Allstars chassis wrecked? This will be an interesting build.
    We'll probably never know the full story, but surprisingly all the corners of the chassis look un-crunchy - better than my NA actually. Rear bumper has the typical scuffs, I'm sure they went through plenty of bodywork, but no big signs of real damage.
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    I have a friend here who tested with that team as a driver. I'll see if he knows that particular chassis. IIRC, he said two of the three were crashed a few times, the team was not good setting the cars up for their intended purpose.
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    OH MY! Got chills seeing this thing! I lost a friend because of these cars! Definitely an Allstar car. Actually, there was only one (at that time) that hit a wall and it only did carbon fiber/sheet metal damage.

    All three MX-5s were built by Tony at AWR Racing in Vista (check website). They were all commissioned by Mazda N.A. I spent 3-4 months on this debacle (Under BFGoodrich). The "president" (yeah, PRESIDENT) ran this team like a car club. He was out of his depth.

    Anyway, were you able to unlock the Motec ECU, or did you actually get a password for it? If you want, I can get you in touch with my bud that handled the tuning on it when the guys at Motec got tired of working with the president. Is the Cozzie Barrel throttle body still on?

    Man, the potential of this little monster! Thinking about what could have been hurts. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2GRX7 View Post
    OH MY! Got chills seeing this thing! I lost a friend because of these cars! Definitely an Allstar car. Actually, there was only one (at that time) that hit a wall and it only did carbon fiber/sheet metal damage.

    All three MX-5s were built by Tony at AWR Racing in Vista (check website). They were all commissioned by Mazda N.A. I spent 3-4 months on this debacle (Under BFGoodrich). The "president" (yeah, PRESIDENT) ran this team like a car club. He was out of his depth.

    Anyway, were you able to unlock the Motec ECU, or did you actually get a password for it? If you want, I can get you in touch with my bud that handled the tuning on it when the guys at Motec got tired of working with the president. Is the Cozzie Barrel throttle body still on?

    Man, the potential of this little monster! Thinking about what could have been hurts. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
    Very cool to hear from someone who knows/was involved with this car's past history! The mis-handled management of that team is essentially why GWR ended up with two of the cars
    Tony at AWR is a friend of ours down here so when the cars ended up in Brian's hands he called Tony up and found that they still had a ton of spare parts and stuff for these sitting around.

    It's a bit nutty what Mazda spent to build this and its sister cars originally. As I understand it, the tubs were specially delivered by Mazda with no seam sealer or underbody coat, then it was caged and stitch welded and powdercoated as a unit, and that was just the beginning.

    This car was switched to a Jenvey intake manifold and throttle body to suit the turbo. The Cosworth roller throttle setup and carbon trumpets were swapped over to the Banana which had a high-compression 2.5 and made a naturally aspirated 270whp:
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    The motor in the car now is a rebuilt Cosworth Formula Atlantic 2.3 - quite similar to the one that was originally in the car from what I understand - and still using the dry sump system, but the 13:1 pistons were swapped out to 9.5:1 for the turbo.
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    Anyone know more to the story? What were the goals?

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    Basically, Intl Allstars (is that a name from the 90's or what?) was a formula drift team with backing by Mazda N.A. which explains the budget level of the build. We're talking about the early days of drifting in the US a decade ago. If you look them up they still have old vids with the cars, with a super cheesy fast and the furious feel to it all.



    Underneath the drift/show paint and stickers though were carbon bodywork and a drivetrain and chassis that were full-on race car. Through mis-management the program fell through and so GWR ended up with two of those cars back in 2007 when the team couldn't afford to keep them. I'm not sure what happened to the third car. After GWR acquired them, the first car evolved into the "NC Light" or what some affectionately call the Banana, which Brian beat up on Vipers with at SCCA and NARRA events:



    Original plans for this second car were to go after the big guns in XP autocross with the turbo, but the project got sidelined a few years ago. Last week we were discussing some of the upcoming events that we want to participate in - and which cars would be best suited for them - and the idea to finish this car up and give it a purpose came about.
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    Yeah, very cheezy name! But like I said, the owner of the team was a car club president first and really had no clue on how to run a racing team-hell, he even said that he'd told them (Mazda) that he didn't know much on drifting but they gave him the program because they were 'comfortable' with their previous working relationship (they were a previous car sponsor for Allstars).

    Ultimately, the president's ego ruled and he didn't take advice well. He should have sent himself to management school, or worked with some of the Mazda-funded race teams. There was some ugliness that occurred that really should remain private, Robburgoon, but I hope that helps.

    The goals were to push the NC chassis in the tuner market-there was still too much love for the RX-7 defunct in Mazda N.A. minds, and create a more masculine view of the model in the eyes of 18-34 males.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2GRX7 View Post
    Yeah, very cheezy name! But like I said, the owner of the team was a car club president first and really had no clue on how to run a racing team-hell, he even said that he'd told them (Mazda) that he didn't know much on drifting but they gave him the program because they were 'comfortable' with their previous working relationship (they were a previous car sponsor for Allstars).

    Ultimately, the president's ego ruled and he didn't take advice well. He should have sent himself to management school, or worked with some of the Mazda-funded race teams. There was some ugliness that occurred that really should remain private, Robburgoon, but I hope that helps.

    The goals were to push the NC chassis in the tuner market-there was still too much love for the RX-7 defunct in Mazda N.A. minds, and create a more masculine view of the model in the eyes of 18-34 males.

    Gotcha, so one of those sign the checks and stay out of the way and everything will turn out fine kinda deals, huh?

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    Pretty sure I saw this car (or one of them) at the San Diego Auto Show several years ago.

    I remember looking at the cage and thinking "How long did that take?"

    Looks like a cool platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Gotcha, so one of those sign the checks and stay out of the way and everything will turn out fine kinda deals, huh?
    Not necessarily, "stay out of the way", moreso, (execs looking at each other) "this is kosher, right? I mean, it makes sense?", (Other exec) " yeah sure!!!" (proceeds to walk away looking white as a ghost) kinda deals!

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    This sounds on par to what I heard. The team was inviting a bunch of up and coming drivers from feeder series to drive the cars in hopes of landing a seat, but word soon started spreading that the team was poison and wouldn't take any feedback from the drivers they invited. Two of those drivers were already drifting and doing well in points in NA Miatas, my friend included. The other NA Miata drifter is still a pro in Formula D, driving an e46 for BCR. I think I remember the third car sustained heavy damage. It may not be around anymore.
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    Lots of little bits and bobs on the to-do list to tie up loose ends and get this car fit for track use. Not all of it is exciting/fancy stuff, but equally necesssary:

    New battery went in the car, we went with a standard NA/NB unit as it's a bit smaller than the NC version. No need for a lightweight battery as this helps with weight balance. The old battery box was thrashed so I made a new one:



    Apparently drifters don't need mirrors? Because the car didn't have one. Welded in brackets for the convex mirror. We'll likely run without side mirrors on the exterior of the doors for lower drag:

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    We had a friend on another forum inquiring about details on the side-exit exhaust, so I snapped a picture:



    As we go through the car to double check systems, the wiring schematics from Motec come in very handy. I'm nerding out a bit here - there's an easy $10-15k here in just the ECU, wiring harnesses, modules and sensors.

    This is what you get from Motec when you order a custom pro-built harness for your car. Top two pages are the chassis-side harness, and bottom two are the engine-side harness:

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