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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
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    You guys have to remember to take total points with a grain of salt. Only compare within the same rules. There was a time a decade or so ago where points were just 10pts for 1st. Now it is 25pts for 1st and last race is 50pts!!! -____-
    Last race of this year could mean a full season of points in a previous year.

    1981–1990 9 6 4 3 2 1
    1991–2002 10 6 4 3 2 1
    2003–2009 10 8 6 5 4 3 2 1
    2010–2013 25 18 15 12 10 8 6 4 2 1
    2014–present 25 18 15 12 10 8 6 4 2 1


    It's like inflation. If we converted all the old points that people got to current points structure, there will be alot of movement in rankings of who has total points. SO it will be more apples to apples comparison. Let's say you want to compare Senna/Prost with Hamilton or Alonso or w/e.
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    ^^^ Good point, to the extent that we are comparing F1 drivers who have been competing since before 2010 when the current point system was implemented. On the other hand, it makes Alonso's total points even more impressive, since many were earned before 2010, when drivers got much less points for each finishing position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    ^^^ Good point, to the extent that we are comparing F1 drivers who have been competing since before 2010 when the current point system was implemented. On the other hand, it makes Alonso's total points even more impressive, since many were earned before 2010, when drivers got much less points for each finishing position.
    And when it took a real tallent and a good car to beat Schumi.But on the other hand Alonso never ever had a really fast teammate to compare to.He somehow managed to kick out the few good drivers that has been unfortunate to try to compete with him,in the same car I mean Which doesnt take out of his tallent,but like the argument that the Williams could be the fastest car on the grid now without a driver to realize the potential,the ferarri could have been the fastest car for many years without we even knowing that.
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    Well Alonso had Hamilton as his teammate when they were with Renault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure EvoIX View Post
    Well Alonso had Hamilton as his teammate when they were with Renault.
    If you meant '07 with McLaren,he was no better than the rookie Hamilton.

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    oops my mistake. I stand corrected. Typed too fast.
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    Who seems to be grace under pressure? So far I'm impressed with Ricciardo.
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    Here are my top 5 fastest drivers.

    #1 Hamilton
    #2 Alonso
    #3 Ricciardo
    #4 Vettel
    #5 Bottas
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    "fastest" is an interesting stat, but very different than "best"...

    Looking at "fastest lap" Kimi is very impressive with 40 of them... ~20% of the races he is in, he puts down the fastest lap... ties MS for 10 in a season but Kimi did it twice...Think about putting down the fast laps in >50% of a F1 season, twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeindirt View Post
    Total points is sort of off... first it gives drivers with more starts an advantage and then it gives guys with better cars an advantage... With over 225 starts and lots of seat time in fast cars, Alonso should be at the top of that list...

    far from perfect, but better, would be average points... (total points)/(# of races entered)
    Vettel 11.79
    Lewis 9.15
    Alonso 7.49

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    I don't pay as much attention to F1 as many of you but I swear the Mercedes crew likes Rosberg better than Hamilton. When I'm paying attention, Rosberg's pit stops are faster than Hamilton's and the crew seems happier when Rosberg wins.

    From what I've seen, Ricciardo is impressive. He definitely gets more out if the car than Vettel.
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    One of the online driver rankings:
    AUTOSPORT World Driver Rankings - Driver Ranking Tables

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    Dale Jr in the top 20? puhleeze
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    Dale Sr., posthumously, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Dale Jr in the top 20? puhleeze
    Agreed. Sebastien Loeb was in 122nd. That's against the law.

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    None of them are perfect, but the AtuoSport one only uses results from the last 12 months, so SebV will start dropping as this season starts to override last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    You or Oli could have taken that 2009 championship in that Braun car. Easily too.
    Ha ha! I just saw this. I am not sure if I should feel flattered or insulted...? ;-)
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