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Thread: WHAT?!!! Cali bill exempting 30+ y/o cars-Just pay extortion fee!

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    Default WHAT?!!! Cali bill exempting 30+ y/o cars-Just pay extortion fee!

    REALLY?!!! I guess the state just figured, "Hey, let's just use the current illegal smog-passage model that's in play and put that money in the state's pocket!" Just one more reason why California wasn't the place for me!

    California bill would let classic car owners out of smog check for $200

    Welp, at least there's a whole lot less hassle ya'll got to deal with-if it passes! Time to rally the troops up in Sacramento!
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    "make the necessary repairs"

    So spend $2000 on an engine valve job and cat, and then if it still fails you pay $200?

    Seems empty.

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    The politicians are panicking. I guess that's what happens when the state is going bankrupt.

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    That's the only thing I like about Florida....

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    Sorry to disagree, but that seems pretty awesome.

    For guys doing engine swaps and other mods, the cost of working with a referee (and ultimately complying, somehow) was MUCH greater than that. This sounds like a sensible option for projects that might otherwise become stupid expensive.

    (It's got me thinking about a V8 swap into my '83 Jeep.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Olsen View Post
    Sorry to disagree, but that seems pretty awesome.

    For guys doing engine swaps and other mods, the cost of working with a referee (and ultimately complying, somehow) was MUCH greater than that. This sounds like a sensible option for projects that might otherwise become stupid expensive.

    (It's got me thinking about a V8 swap into my '83 Jeep.)
    Didn't see anything about modifications being legal, just if you can't pass the sniff after repairs. No swap for you!

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    I don't think it would be for swaps already in process. But today I could take my Jeep in and get a fail. Then I do some basic repairs -- and then undo the change to guarantee another fail.

    Then for a $200 fee, my car is forever after exempt.

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    I have 2 '84 Audis, 1 needs to be smogged every 2 years, I have to pay about $250 to get it to "pass".....
    I'm running standalone EFI w/full ign. control and E85 on a modified 5cyl. There's no way it would ever pass the "visual" but would probably pass the tailpipe on E85.
    I would love to use this "waiver" so I would have to pay the $250 every 2 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Olsen View Post

    Then for a $200 fee, my car is forever after exempt.
    Jack, I read the bill and couldn't find any wording that stated that these cars would be exempt forever. I believe the process would need to be repeated every two years and for $200 each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeColangelo View Post
    Jack, I read the bill and couldn't find any wording that stated that these cars would be exempt forever. I believe the process would need to be repeated every two years and for $200 each time.

    I've been wondering the same thing. The article was not clear on this point, and can be read to mean you have to pay the $200- every 2 years. You actually read the bill?

    I guess if it passes I will benefit from it if my NSX won't pass smog, beginning in 2022 . . .
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    It's a pay to pass Bill. Pay $200 + cost of smog and repairs that won't work every two years.
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    Cali is going to grab any money where it can because it's current system isn't working.
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    There's a definite need for a, "Break This Down for Us, Richard" session:

    Bill Text - AB-550 Smog check: exemption: fee.

    I'm wondering if, after you "fail" your first smog, do you HAVE TO follow ref-like standards to fix the broken part, or parts, OR can you just go away after failing and go back tomorrow and re-smog?
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    They should just have a maximum miles per year allowed for driving classic cars that are no longer smog legal. Pay a fee to be allowed to drive your smogmobile 2,000-3,000 miles a year. The smog test will check the miles. Not sure how to keep people honest though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red_5 View Post
    not sure how to keep people honest though.
    lol...lol...lol...lol...

    this is tread about skirting the clean air act.

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    well whatever the case, this seems like a step in the right direction for those who have cars difficult to pass and willing to pay to keep it street legal. CARB has always been about money and this is right up their alley...
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    ^^ Says the man with the FD RX-7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    They should just have a maximum miles per year allowed for driving classic cars that are no longer smog legal. Pay a fee to be allowed to drive your smogmobile 2,000-3,000 miles a year. The smog test will check the miles. Not sure how to keep people honest though.
    This is the sensible approach. Classic cars simply don't rack enough miles in a year; they're often too valuable to be commuters. They're not the problem.

    Modernized engine swaps should be easier too w/ re-certification. In many cases the vehicle will be more fuel efficient with fewer emissions.

    Take my money damn it. Just make it easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    ^^ Says the man with the FD RX-7.
    haha dern tootin'! she was down for 1.5 years - i don't feel guilty at all. any lawyers in the house that can give us the letter of this potential law?
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