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    Default Toyota/Scion FT86 - Final Specs, not bad

    So finally Toyota decided to build the Miata coupe that Mazda never wanted to. Or a gay-er, more practical S2000, I don´t know

    2.0 200hp/151lb-ft, 2700lbs, 6 speed, LSD. Sounds like a pretty nice package if they keep it close to 25k as expected.




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    2712 lbs. A little porky if you ask me. Weight to power ratio 13.56 lbs./bhp. Nothing to write home about.
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    Flat 4 is interesting. Wonder if they are using the Subaru EJ20 motor.

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    I was really hoping for a forced induction version, but according to autoblog even the BRZ STI will still be NA

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    STI drivetrain swap anyone?

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    Hakeem, they´re using a heavily modified version of the new-generation Subaru flat 4 (FB20, replacing EJ20). They´ve added Toyota´s direct injection (D4S) and most likely also modified bore/stroke for this application.

    Psychoazn, swaps should be quite easy, they´ve officially stated that engine mounting points have remained the same as the WRX/STI.

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    Are they planning to sell it in the U.S.A.?

    It is actually good news that any car company is coming out with a new performance-oriented gas engine sport coupe. Everything today is green, hybrid, electric crap.
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    Yes, the Toyota version will be sold in the US as a SCION, the Subaru version will be selling too. Differences will be aesthetic, no major mechanical differences expected.

    I think this car has a strong chance of becoming a hit: Its light by today standards. It's RWD. It's decently powerful. It looks cool. It should be reliable. And it's quite practical (2+2 and decent trunk). Lets just hope for a competitive price.

    If suspension and brakes are up to par, it could kill all the "sporty" fail wheel drive competitors (Civic Si, GTI, Cooper S, WRX) and overweight ones too (Genesis Coupe turbo).


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    Your ` instead of ' is freaking me out.

    STi drivetrain swap would be awesome in this car.

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    I believe the Suby version will be closer to 300hp, assuming turbocharged. THAT will be cool. We Hear: Subaru BRZ Could Boast More Power Than Toyota FT-86 - WOT on Motor Trend

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    That's pure speculation. Plenty of evidence supporting it will use the same engine and have the same power rating.

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    I really want to buy this!! It's a time for selling my Evo to get a new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isamu View Post
    I really want to buy this!! It's a time for selling my Evo to get a new toy.
    I will NEVER sell my Evo IX MR. I may give it to my son when he gets his learner's permit about a year-and-a-half from now, but why sell one of the greatest cars ever made?
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    I had one and sold it, like the S2000 much better.

    RWD > AWD
    Lighter
    More reliable
    Cheaper expendables


    Cons: Slower. Smaller.
    You can´t have it all!

    PD: Just saw your sig. Seems duties are well distributed for your cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    I will NEVER sell my Evo IX MR. I may give it to my son when he gets his learner's permit about a year-and-a-half from now, but why sell one of the greatest cars ever made?
    I thought my STi was a great daily driver, until I got rid of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurburgring View Post
    I had one and sold it, like the S2000 much better.

    RWD > AWD
    Lighter
    More reliable
    Cheaper expendables


    Cons: Slower. Smaller.
    You can´t have it all!

    PD: Just saw your sig. Seems duties are well distributed for your cars
    I have owned the following track cars: 350Z, Evo VIII, Miata (fully prepped race car PTE, ITA, SM, E2), C4 Corvette, S2000, and NSX, and I also tracked my B6 S4 several times. The S2000 is by far the most amusing to drive on track.
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    Have they announced an on sale date for the Scion?

    Richard, why, if the EVO is the greatest car, don't you track that one as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donutbob View Post
    Have they announced an on sale date for the Scion?

    Richard, why, if the EVO is the greatest car, don't you track that one as well?
    Been there, done that with my Evo VIII RS. When you build them up to 439 awhp, they tend to blow up (several times). I mean a bone stock Evo is a great daily driver.
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    2700lbs for a "performance" car made in this decade is pretty damn light. Since the engine mounting points are the same as previous years, I bet swaps will be pretty common. I'm curious if they'll make any improvements to the numb steering response that's present in all Subarus..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchOven View Post
    2700lbs for a "performance" car made in this decade is pretty damn light.
    I guess that's right. Sure beats the 3400 lbs. that the BMW 135i came in at. I really meant compared to what a Miata weighs.
    The deposed former Sheriff of trackHQ . . .

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