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    I went to my first track day last year and used last years street tires on an extra
    set of wheels I acquired. The rear tires (Michelin Pilot Super Sports)
    overheated and quarter sized chunks of rubber came off down to the chord.
    My question is this. Is it safe to buy 2 Toyo Proxes R888 to run on the rear and
    use the Pilot Super Sports on the front? 2005 Acura TSX.

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    You'll likely have a push. Until the R888 cycle out, then you might get way way loose.

    Also, I'd be expecting the fronts to be the ones to have the harder life on a FWD car. I'd favor getting a full set of r compounds. If you're on a budget, federal rsrr are damn cheap and shouldn't chunk. They are silly loud on the freeway though.

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    I wouldn’t mix and match for track. Too unpredictable.

    PSS is a great street tire but sucks for track. I would buy 2 more PSS and use for street. And 4 RSRR (or RS4, RE71R,
    Nt02, RC1, if you got the money) like Rob said and wheels just for track.
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    Replacing tires often is the “price of admission “ to this sport. At first it is painful, but soon you won’t think twice about it. Having decent rubber is important, so I would recommend just replacing the set. I don’t agree with Rob about going directly to a set of R compound tires. Most people recommend staying on street tires for at least a year so you can learn car control skills. Street tires usually communicate more with the driver (they squeal) than R compounds do. Also since street tires have less grip it is safer to learn the limits of your car at lower and safer speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleyH View Post
    Replacing tires often is the “price of admission “ to this sport. At first it is painful, but soon you won’t think twice about it. Having decent rubber is important, so I would recommend just replacing the set. I don’t agree with Rob about going directly to a set of R compound tires. Most people recommend staying on street tires for at least a year so you can learn car control skills. Street tires usually communicate more with the driver (they squeal) than R compounds do. Also since street tires have less grip it is safer to learn the limits of your car at lower and safer speeds.

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    the line between R-comp and street tire blurred long time ago. in fact, today's super 200tw (RE71R, Rival-S, etc) are stickier than standard r-comp (NT01, R888, RC1)........
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    He needs something that won't chunk. A talky tire is nice, but if he's chunking I figure we should take care of that.

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    Not to take anything away from what's already been mentioned but when I started I was in a similar position with a fwd car. I mixed and matched (300 and 200 treadwear tires). Put the stickier tires in back so it was more predictable. It will push, but you're still learning so it should be fine. I would also stay away from r-compounds until you can really jam on some 180-200 treadwear tires (Rs-4, etc.)

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    I think the chunking has another cause. Something is going on. The majority of weight on that car is up front, as are the drive wheels. For a first day you also just aren't going that fast. How old were the tires? What is your tire pressure and alignment? I have ran PSS on the track often with no issues.

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    FWIW the PSS is a very predictable and consistent tire. I think it is a great tire for beginners. More grip is not good here IMO.

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    One of the very fastest drivers I've ever met is an older (i.e. experienced) guy out at Spring Mountain. I once asked him how he became so good at car control. His answer was that when he first started racing, his coach simply never allowed him to use race tires. For the first year, he was often getting his ass kicked and mid-way through the season he was begging for race tires but his coach said no. As he tells the story, on the second season, he was finally allowed to run race tires and he won his first 3 races that season....
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