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    GT Channel finally posted the video of the Spoon NSX-R GT vs. the FXMD (previously Factor-X) FX750 Unlimited Time Attack NSX.

    Streets of Willow clockwise with the additional (old track) hairpin turn 3-4 (the new 'blowpass' is a simple 90* right-hand corner while the old track was more of a hairpin with a left hand corner leading into the 'esses' before the 'bowl'). Depending on the car/conditions/track, the old track is said to be 1-2 seconds slower than the newer 'blowpass' configuration that most clubs run.

    Spoon NSX-R GT: 1:25.902 - Tyler McQuarrie
    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...-GT_188188.htm
    Mine's R35 GTR: 1:25.113 - Daijiro Yoshihara
    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...-GT_188190.htm
    FXMD FX750 NSX: 1:23.X - Billy Johnson (Lap not listed in the videos)

    We did the 1:23 despite having significant problems engaging 3rd gear, brake bias being off, down on power (to break in the motor), and the terrible US-spec gear stack and final drive). This was filmed late last year where the car was still far from being sorted.

    Part 1: (Talking about all 3 cars + Tyler)

    http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=76797

    Part 2: (More talking, more on-track, Billy in-car)

    http://www.gtchannel.com/content.php?cid=76798

    Article:
    http://drive.gtchannel.com/?c=127&a=1609
    http://drive.gtchannel.com/?c=127&a=1609&sp=2

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    Cool videos Billy. Glad to see you enjoyed the Spoon NSX-R GT.

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    Wow...the FXMD FX750 NSX took out the Spoon NSX-R GT...that's pretty fricken awesome. I'm sure all the JDM fanboys will get their panties in a bunch when they learn about this.
    Last edited by 600RR_Rocket; 06-17-2009 at 10:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 600RR_Rocket View Post


    Wow...the FXMD FX750 NSX took out the Spoon NSX-R GT...that's pretty fricken awesome. I'm sure all the JDM fanboys will get their panties in a bunch when they learn that the FXMD FX750 NSX has () German coilovers???
    I'm a Spoon Whore, but I'm not surprised the FXMD FX750 NSX is faster than the Spoon NSX-R GT. The FXMD FX750 NSX's engine is built right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 600RR_Rocket View Post


    Wow...the FXMD FX750 NSX took out the Spoon NSX-R GT...that's pretty fricken awesome. I'm sure all the JDM fanboys will get their panties in a bunch when they learn that the FXMD FX750 NSX has () German coilovers???
    Is there actually anyone in the world who thinks the Japanese are any good at making shocks? Surely even the Japanese know they suck.

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    Billy, what kind of tires was the FXMD running?

    Looks like the Spoon NSX and the Mine GTR are running Street Tires.

    Previous TrackHQ discussion regarding this:

    Mine's R35 GTR VS Spoon NSX-R GT
    Last edited by 600RR_Rocket; 06-17-2009 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 600RR_Rocket View Post


    Wow...the FXMD FX750 NSX took out the Spoon NSX-R GT...that's pretty fricken awesome. I'm sure all the JDM fanboys will get their panties in a bunch when they learn about this.
    NSX type R GT is still a production car, limited production only 5 in the world, kinda like AMG upgrade for Mercedes Benz.
    Last edited by MiataCharles_Hong_Kong; 06-17-2009 at 10:38 AM.

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    With no blow pass running the old longer track the M-Workz 350Z ran a 1:22.8 on used BFG tires. With C91's, easy 1:18.X with any cockpit spacer......
    We point your tires in the right direction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 600RR_Rocket View Post
    Billy, what kind of tires was the FXMD running?

    Looks like the Spoon NSX and the Mine GTR are running Street Tires.

    Previous TrackHQ discussion regarding this:

    Mine's R35 GTR VS Spoon NSX-R GT
    Tires: Yokohama A048 MH
    Front - 265/35-18
    Rear - 315/35-18
    550whp

    Both the Spoon and Mines cars are street cars, more similarly to our silver "Seamless" FX500 silver NSX which has a full interior, carpet, sound system (with amp and subwoofer -which Spoon/Mines dosn't have), etc... I'm pretty confindent our FX500 wouldn't have an issue with beating the two JDM tuners, especially with its 500whp.

    The Unlimited FX750 is more of a racecar like the M-WorkZ 350Z. Both of those cars with C91/Yokohama Slick comparable tires, should be 1:18 or less at SOW. The FX750 had significant gearbox issues and other issues that hampered its performance that weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Workz View Post
    With no blow pass running the old longer track the M-Workz 350Z ran a 1:22.8 on used BFG tires. With C91's, easy 1:18.X with any cockpit spacer......
    I don't know....

    Picking up four seconds on an 80 second track with just tires, even good ones, is expecting a lot I think. I would think three at most and that is still a darn good time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    I don't know....

    Picking up four seconds on an 80 second track with just tires, even good ones, is expecting a lot I think. I would think three at most and that is still a darn good time.

    Well he didn't state the development done to the car, but yes the C91s would be at least few seconds faster than the BFG R1, so his statement is still true IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    Is there actually anyone in the world who thinks the Japanese are any good at making shocks? Surely even the Japanese know they suck.
    lol.



    Its sad, but I have to agree with you.

    Congrats Billy. And to think how far the car has come since then. I do think that taking cars like this to Streets is like taking a 50 cal to go groundhog hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    Is there actually anyone in the world who thinks the Japanese are any good at making shocks? Surely even the Japanese know they suck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Andrews View Post
    lol.



    Its sad, but I have to agree with you.

    Congrats Billy. And to think how far the car has come since then. I do think that taking cars like this to Streets is like taking a 50 cal to go groundhog hunting.

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