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    Default Spec E46 - the next successful spec class?

    So, my Facebook feed has Spec E46 posts popping up on a regular basis now. I see there's cars built and on track in the north west, east coast, and at least one (maybe more?) here in SoCal?

    Sounds like a cool class with a modern chassis.

    http://spece46.com

    What do you guys think?

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    So far, it's not a sanctioned class. What benefit does it have over German Touring Series 1-5?

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    I've been approached by a car owner to volunteer to be NASAs National Director for the class... I'm considering it to position the rules to keep the classes initial intent intact and to help keep 'development creep' at a minimum. Anyone want my SM gig?
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    I think Moti built a car recently. For a customer that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    So far, it's not a sanctioned class. What benefit does it have over German Touring Series 1-5?
    Well, it is a spec class whilst GTS 1-5 is a mix of cars like PT.

    I think it's viewed as the successor to Spec E30.

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    I thought that's what Spec 3 was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeColangelo View Post
    I think it's viewed as the successor to Spec E30.
    why wouldn't it be Spec E36 ?
    is there a Spec E36 ?
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    Guys, all good questions. The creators of the class (I think James Clay of Bimmerworld was one of them) explain the logic here:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeColangelo View Post
    Guys, all good questions. The creators of the class (I think James Clay of Bimmerworld was one of them) explain the logic here:
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    good FAQ.
    though I do find it strange they only allow 330, and not 323/325/328......
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    good FAQ.
    though I do find it strange they only allow 330, and not 323/325/328......
    Strange how? Spec classes. Step one. Have one spec. This step has proved troublesome for SM and SE30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comradefks View Post
    I think Moti built a car recently. For a customer that is.
    Right you are, the first running SE46 in the west coast was built at Blackbird Fabworx.
    The car is at the very beginning of the development but looks promising.

    It seems to me that Spec E46 has a real good potential of becoming the next big spec class, it has the right ingredients - a good likeable car that is being tracked nation wide and are fun to driveright out of the box.
    Plenty of donor cars available and they are priced just right for racecars, finding a nice car well under $10k is piece of cake, somewhat rougher examples or high mileage easily under $5k... hardly over nice NB money and less than NC money for sure.
    Larger drivers don't have any problems fitting into one, there's lots of room in the E46 chassis. All the battles that racers of smaller cars run into like seat fitment or space for cool suit, getting enough headroom, fire sys location etc.. yeah, expect none of that.

    I'll post more pics later

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Strange how? Spec classes. Step one. Have one spec. This step has proved troublesome for SM and SE30.
    Rob, you're correct and it's hard to maintain spec vigilance while being pressured to get counts up... It's easier to get numbers by opening the spec a little to pull cars. The class is stuck between the usual rock and a sh!t sandwich.
    • SM parity over the many models was a mess, it's pretty good now (until SCCA SMAC mucks it up again, which is inevitable)
    • SE30 still needs to have it's big 'come to Jesus' rules fight... The HP & TQ cap was a big swing and caused a load of unhappy folks who spent big bucks on cheater motors. Suspension mods and chassis tweaks are next for them - I wish'em luck because after SM they put on the best show in NASA.
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    I'll be honest. The more I learn about this class, the more tempted I am to buy an e46 and turn it into a street-legal track car with an eye towards full-blown race car when/if the time comes.

    Too bad they don't allow wings!

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    definitely looks interesting.. time to look for a e46 330

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Strange how? Spec classes. Step one. Have one spec. This step has proved troublesome for SM and SE30.
    Spec only works with sealed motors, shocks from one supplier, etc. Since the parts can(and are) modified, it's a spending war. I like HP & TQ caps. Cheaper to police and and build a competitive car for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Spec only works with sealed motors, shocks from one supplier, etc. Since the parts can(and are) modified, it's a spending war. I like HP & TQ caps. Cheaper to police and and build a competitive car for.
    Not saying that's not an ok solution, just saying that to be a real spec class it's one chassis and one engine.

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    I like fiddling with my race car. A spec class would drive me bats, just sitting there not being allowed to modify anything. I guess I could stick it into a wall at the end of each event to give myself something to do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flink View Post
    I like fiddling with my race car. A spec class would drive me bats, just sitting there not being allowed to modify anything. I guess I could stick it into a wall at the end of each event to give myself something to do...
    There's always custom alignments, shock settings, ride heights, and corner weights for each track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flink View Post
    I like fiddling with my race car. A spec class would drive me bats, just sitting there not being allowed to modify anything. I guess I could stick it into a wall at the end of each event to give myself something to do...
    You mean more time to race ? That's a crazy idea !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    You mean more time to race ? That's a crazy idea !!
    Am planning on 27 days racing this year plus maybe 10 test days. But I still spend far too long sitting around fidgeting. "War is long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror" or something.

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