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    I am all for autonomous cars. I envision a future where I can inexpensively travel anywhere while reading a book or playing video games, without being bothered by the presence of other people, or going through ridiculous airport security. The only problem is that car-related fatalities will drop dramatically. What are we going to do with all those dumb ass people staying alive?
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    Even better, wake up in the morning well rested @ your vacation location. Think track day up-north.

    The huge advantages are commercial.

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    I see them more as servant robots.
    I can send the car to restaurant to pick up lunch (it would be easy to implement)
    send it to pick up kids
    drive wife to shopping
    pick up car parts at parts store

    there will be no need for mailman - mail delivery would be autonomous.
    no need for taxi drivers - huge in big cities
    no need for truck drivers - instead of driving 10 hours / day, they will now do 24 hours a day. everything I order on Amazon will get to me faster and cheaper
    no need for bus drivers
    no more body shops
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    1) It will take a while before anything without a "driver" is an option...
    2) Union labor will do everything possible to slow down the progress... (ports drivers/UPS/USPS/Taxi/bus)

    but b2b and airlines will have huge changes... not to mention body-shops and bars

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    I see them more as servant robots.
    I can send the car to restaurant to pick up lunch (it would be easy to implement)
    send it to pick up kids
    drive wife to shopping
    pick up car parts at parts store

    there will be no need for mailman - mail delivery would be autonomous.
    no need for taxi drivers - huge in big cities
    no need for truck drivers - instead of driving 10 hours / day, they will now do 24 hours a day. everything I order on Amazon will get to me faster and cheaper
    no need for bus drivers
    no more body shops
    . . . . or this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    comes 2015, Richard will be posting "save the DSG" !!!!

    because by 2015, everybody will be driving (if autonomous cars haven't yet taken over) an EV. just 1 gear !!!! no rev matching, no upshift, no downshift, no clutch, no automatic, no exhaust sound, no intake noise, no coolant leaks, no oil leaks !!!
    Yup, reminds me of a golf club fleet of carts. And they are so simple that drunk guys manage to drive them through all kinds a terrain each day and manage to get them back to the clubhouse without damage. Point being that KISS (keep it simple stupid) works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Caboose View Post
    And this comes from the guy that shifted away on the "cousin" to Richard's "The Price is Right" S2000. Both the smooth inputs and the speedometer show up nicely.

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    Kinda makes me want to crawl in a hole and wait for 2020: Nissan: We'll have a self-driving car on roads in 2020 - CNN.com
    That was a long long time ago... back before the cotton corners repave, and when AD08s and that time was fast.

    Now, give me paddle shifters and a comfortable seat. But I would love an old Porsche turbo or RS to row gears in every now and then.

    Fwiw there are rumors that some alms cars don't even require shifting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Fwiw there are rumors that some alms cars don't even require shifting...
    If u think about it. Fastest will be an automatic mode DSG that determines when/where to shift based on predictive of GPS data logger. That is self adjusting (millisecond at a time) for fastest lap time.

    Umm. It is scary to think we don't even need race car drivers. As computer will be fastest in determining the best braking point, best throttle position and best steering angle. All based on predictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post

    Umm. It is scary to think we don't even need race car drivers. As computer will be fastest in determining the best braking point, best throttle position and best steering angle. All based on predictive.
    Yes. The future of auto racing belongs to the nerds. Programmers a data analytics experts will sit down together to refine the software in the car. The best software programming and most precise servos will determine how fast the car goes. The traditional driver will be an anachronism in 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    If u think about it. Fastest will be an automatic mode DSG that determines when/where to shift based on predictive of GPS data logger. That is self adjusting (millisecond at a time) for fastest lap time.

    Umm. It is scary to think we don't even need race car drivers. As computer will be fastest in determining the best braking point, best throttle position and best steering angle. All based on predictive.
    And the will hand "theirselves" with penalties for avoidable contact.Sent by email during the race Like this one: "The driver(computer,or cyborg if you want) has to cut the processor speed in half for 3 laps" or "Decrease the max brake pressure for 5 laps"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    Yes. The future of auto racing belongs to the nerds. Programmers a data analytics experts will sit down together to refine the software in the car. The best software programming and most precise servos will determine how fast the car goes. The traditional driver will be an anachronism in 10 years.
    Half of the fun in racing is human risk and ****-up though. At least, that is the part that I imagine keeps people interested. I have a hard time believing anyone is going to watch (televised or live) programmed bots racing each other. That sounds boring.
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    Where'd you get a picture of Richard from the 70's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tq3z View Post
    Half of the fun in racing is human risk and ****-up though. At least, that is the part that I imagine keeps people interested. I have a hard time believing anyone is going to watch (televised or live) programmed bots racing each other. That sounds boring.
    you do know that the best (and most decorated) fighter/attack pilots in the world today really do look like what Oli posted (of F1 Champion)....sitting inside air conditioned room at Nellis AFB, eating Cheetos, while hunting down Taliban (or guarding our ground troops). not some naked Top Gun pilots playing beach volleyball...........
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    Would you watch a race between computer-controlled cars with no human drivers? I wouldn't . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    Would you watch a race between computer-controlled cars with no human drivers? I wouldn't . . .
    Me too,but race between computer-controled cars and cars driven by real racers inside the car could be a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawareca View Post
    Me too,but race between computer-controled cars and cars driven by real racers inside the car could be a lot of fun.
    Or computer operated cars with machine guns straddled to the roof. That would be awesome. Not only do you have to go fast - you have to survive as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tq3z View Post
    Or computer operated cars with machine guns straddled to the roof. That would be awesome. Not only do you have to go fast - you have to survive as well.
    I think Top Gear has already done that . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    That was a long long time ago... But I would love an old Porsche turbo or RS to row gears in every now and then.

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