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    All cars should be manual in the future, mainly to keep idiocy off the public roads.

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    Agreed. It's getting harder and harder to buy one, even in "entusiast" cars. Certain top end Ferraris only come with F1 paddle shifters. Current BMW M5 and M6, so far as I know, are only no-clutch-pedal transmission (all of these are just automatics, as far as I am concerned). Nissan GT-R -- same story. Why would anyone buy a Porsche with a tiptronic slushbox? It sucks.
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    There's still hope for BMW! "Initially, a seven-speed sequential manual gearbox was the only transmission choice, but thanks to some disgruntled American clientele, U.S.-bound cars were later available with a six-speed manual as well." bmw m5 motortrend

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    The difference between European drivers and American drivers is that European drivers don't care if their brakes squeal, just as long as the stop the car. American drivers don't care if their brakes stop the car, just as long as they don't squeal.
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    You guys need to go back to watching the Andy Griffith show.

    Old style shifting is ... Old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    The difference between European drivers and American drivers is that European drivers don't care if their brakes squeal, just as long as the stop the car. American drivers don't care if their brakes stop the car, just as long as they don't squeal.
    wtf is it with euro brake pads? Every BMW/Audi/etc you see has black **** all over the front wheels. I put some nice American Hawk ceramics in the x5 - much much better.

    oops, sorry. A bit of off-topic free association there...

    Manuals are a few percent more fuel-efficient than autos, which is why they're used more in Europe. Plus French drivers are more manly.

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    great intention but somewhat a funny video imo lmao
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    i know ppl were complaining about the e60 m5's not having a manual transmission when they first came out. and when my friend was in the market for his m5 a couple years ago, the dealership practically couldnt give the manual m5s away.

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    This video is hilarious and true. I don't understand why the average person thinks driving a car with a manual transmission is such a problem? I enjoy it and I don't find it bothersome, even in traffic (the usual commuter's complaint). I guess the average person doesn't enjoy driving like many of us do though.
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    The automatic, along with all the other features that add weight and cost to cars these days, are what a majority of americans want and thus, that is what the car manufacturers are going to give us.

    S**t, there are even cars that parallel park themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSALBERT View Post
    i know ppl were complaining about the e60 m5's not having a manual transmission when they first came out. and when my friend was in the market for his m5 a couple years ago, the dealership practically couldnt give the manual m5s away.
    The fact that certain expensive cars have more resale value with a slushbox than a stick is just one of the costs of being a purist (of benefits, if you are a buyer). They could have given away a manual M5 to me, but the sure couldn't give me a paddle-shift automatic posuer car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnathan68 View Post
    The automatic, along with all the other features that add weight and cost to cars these days, are what a majority of americans want and thus, that is what the car manufacturers are going to give us.

    S**t, there are even cars that parallel park themselves
    Even Mitsubishi, when it went from the Evo IX to the Evo X, added 300 lbs. to the car, and the top of the line MR is only available with a paddle-shift, no clutch pedal "SST" gearbox that is a piece of crap on track and goes into limp mode after a few laps. Manuals are an endangered species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    Even Mitsubishi, when it went from the Evo IX to the Evo X, added 300 lbs. to the car, and the top of the line MR is only available with a paddle-shift, no clutch pedal "SST" gearbox that is a piece of crap on track and goes into limp mode after a few laps. Manuals are an endangered species.
    In my opinion that's one of biggest engineering blunders of late. That and the use CVT transmissions again
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