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    Default S2000 vs Civic Type R (FD2R)

    Was having a discussion with a few friends on the merits of the S2000 on the track versus a car with newer technology like the Civic FD2R.

    Considering the wider track of the Civic, the longer wheelbase, improved aerodynamics and the wider powerband of the original engine due to I-Vtec, the FD2R looks like it might be quicker in most areas except the part it being FWD.

    My question would be: considering all these factors, what merits would the S2000 hold above the FD2R in this case? Would the difference in driven wheels be able to compensate for most of superior points of the FD2R to make the S2000 competitive in comparison?

    do kindly share your thoughts and experiences...
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    Without knowing a huge amount about the overall setup of the FD2R (just pulled online specs), the main things is that yes, the S2000 is rear wheel drive. Adding that the S2000 is much better balanced and a bit lighter and my thought is that the S2000 is more than competitive in a track comparison. Also, if you are comparing stock to stock, really would be comparing the S2000 CR (special edition vs. the special edition FD2R) which, from what I heard and have seen, is a very competent track car right out of the box.

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    FD2R is a better car than the S2000 in most respects. Unlimited TA however and you have a different scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tq3z View Post
    FD2R is a better car than the S2000 in most respects. Unlimited TA however and you have a different scenario.
    Agree about unlimited TA. With bolt on mods on a road car, have a feeling the S would be hard pressed to be significantly quicker on track.
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    What do you mean signifigantly quicker? The S doesn't stand a chance in any regard. The only advantage is its more fun (subjective) Hardly a win in any regard in my books. And believe me, I love the S2000.
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    This video shows a lot about the FD2 type R for those who don't know much about it. Also has it put up against S2000 and NSX


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    Watched the video and seems like a definetely fun and fast car. Lap times are good but a completely different experience than the base model Z (which had a faster lap time) or S2000. I think it would come down to the interior space and daily driver thing.

    All I have to say is now my wife wants one of those comfort lamp hats to show me my car is not "comfortable" to drive in :-)

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    ^^^My sentiments exactly.

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    When you drop the top in the pre-grid, nothing else matters
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    Quote Originally Posted by dc2696 View Post
    When you drop the top in the pre-grid, nothing else matters
    Unless you're granny-shifting (not double-clutching like you should be)

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    No need to double-clutch Honda 2000 with Spoon Engines and MoTec system exhaust.

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    Unless you're granny-shifting (not double-clutching like you should be)

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    McPherson struts need a lot of spring to handle that flat.
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    I'm comparing these two cars for a lot of years. I think the conclusion is pretty clear.
    Stock to stock, FD2 TypeR is a faster car even with 15hp less. In all comparison test, it's 1 second(1.5mile track)faster per lap than s2000 type s/s2000.
    FD2R is almost as fast as NA2 NSX(non R). Suspension is very stiff and almost can't be a daily drive compared to softer s2000.
    Not sure why Honda is so obsessed with making a extremely stiff civic which couldn't be used as a family car at all.I guess japanese player loves fast "family car".

    In almost all tuner test, s2000 is faster and more popular choice. I think it's due to the chassis advantage over FD2R.

    Which one is more fun? I don't know.
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    5 year old thread much?
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