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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    ^^^ As you acknowledge, this thread is about exterior design. Please defend the 370Z headlights and tail-lights, if you can . . .
    Don't need to, as the 370z is a better car in every aspect, other than maybe gas mileage and current cost
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    the fuel economy on my 370 is actually pretty good, 27-30mpg on the highway cruising at like 70-75. do 80 its about 25-27mpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyFocus View Post
    just received some my new wheels for my 370, once i get the tires in ill take a pic, maybe some of you guys will like the look of the car better with different wheels
    How will that fix the worst design pratfalls, which are the headlights, tail lights, and grille?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    How will that fix the worst design pratfalls, which are the headlights, tail lights, and grille?
    The same way a boob job fixes mediocre women.
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    never mind

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    what wheels did you get? I saw a white one one silver ce28's a few months back and thought it looked pretty good.

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    I worked for Nissan for 25 years and have seen a lot. Nissan started off strong in the early 70s. Then put out some different (butt ugly) styles (I think just to see how many people would by them). Then they would redeem them self’s here and there. But the one thing you can say is, they were always trying something new and different. And even changed the way, just about all cars looked at one time.

    I have driven a few 350s. Stock I liked the way they handled. Was asked to drive a full race 350 with Moton's, and was staying on the tail of a WC GT spec Porsche with a world class driver, till we hit the straights. Still reeling him in on the tight sections of SOW. So I was impressed with the handling of the car.
    I've never had one nor built one so don't know of everything you have to over come to make it handle.

    As far as the Puke....err I mean Juke... well nuf said...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. T View Post
    what wheels did you get? I saw a white one one silver ce28's a few months back and thought it looked pretty good.
    Enkei PF01s, there going to be my track wheels, 18x9.5 front 18x10.5 rear. gunna run 265-275 up front and 285-295 in back. Gunna still DD on my OEM rays

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    ^^^ Nice wheels. Like putting lipstick on a pig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyFocus View Post
    Enkei PF01s, there going to be my track wheels, 18x9.5 front 18x10.5 rear. gunna run 265-275 up front and 285-295 in back. Gunna still DD on my OEM rays
    I like those wheels atleast, especially the price. Definitely post up some pics once they are on the car.

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    I think the 350 just looks cleaner than the 370, which seems to be over-styled a bit. I know the 370 is the better track car.

    Speaking of Z track cars, has anyone seen any quick 300ZX twin turbo models at the track? Just wondering because I drove a '91 300ZX during my college years. Sold it to get my s2k, but I always liked the 300ZX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azngotmilk View Post
    i never really like 350Z.. the 370z in the other hand doesn't look too bad. i like them alot better if theres any sort of wing/trunk lip or something

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    Since this is about the design of the cars, here's my take on why the 370Z is the *much* better looking car -

    To start with, the shorter overhangs on the 370 make it look much lighter on its feet.

    The 3/4 view here highlights the slab side of the 350Z vs. the much more refined belt line of the 370 that starts nice and crisp at the front and dissolves as you get to the rear fender.
    Same goes to the side skirts, where the 350 has no shape or interesting development and the 370 is replacing the boredom with a nicely cut 3D shape that once again softens as you get to the rear, a styling feature with a wink towards old world sports cars where swooping lines from the front are replaced with a new curve at the rear arches.
    The cut of the rear bumper is integrated into the shape of the tail light in the 370, the cut in the 350 is a total afterthought.
    And speaking of tail lights, while I'm not a huge fan of the 370 pieces (they look okay..), the split unit of the 350 is just old. It looked old when it was new. Meh.

    The 1/4 view shows the complete lack of character of the 350 vs the 370 - the plain grille opening has nothing going for it, which is why Nissan fixed the looks of the Nismo edition with a curve at the bottom and gave it some teeth.
    The 370 is a total win here with a meaner look and personality.
    I'm a tiny fan of the headlights (never liked the "bug from Mars" look), to me they look like the designers tried too hard (the 350 look like they didn't try hard enough).
    In the name of "improved aero" the Nismo 370 actually took a step backwards with the simple rectangular grille.. at least they did something interesting with the way that the corners of the bumper have a sharp cut off that join the front fenders.

    And if the opinions are divided about the exterior, there's just no comparison with the interior design between the two.
    While the 350 is marginally better than my ol' Toyota beater truck, the 370 has a really nice cabin which is fun to be in, full of nice materials and lightyears ahead in the design.

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    BTW, I have driven both on track in their stock form, both were the sport package / track edition, the 370 is a much nicer car to drive too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    ^^^ Nice wheels. Like putting lipstick on a pig.
    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. T View Post
    I like those wheels atleast, especially the price. Definitely post up some pics once they are on the car.
    tires should arrive soon, ill post soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHapa View Post
    I think the 350 just looks cleaner than the 370, which seems to be over-styled a bit. I know the 370 is the better track car.

    Speaking of Z track cars, has anyone seen any quick 300ZX twin turbo models at the track? Just wondering because I drove a '91 300ZX during my college years. Sold it to get my s2k, but I always liked the 300ZX.

    I absolutely love the 300zx. Great GT car, I just don't think I've seen one competitive on this scene personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tq3z View Post
    I absolutely love the 300zx. Great GT car, I just don't think I've seen one competitive on this scene personally.
    Back when I first bought and started modding the 350Z, I belonged to a local Nissan Z club. One of the members had a 300ZX Turbo that he had built up to about 550 hp. That thing was amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    Back when I first bought and started modding the 350Z, I belonged to a local Nissan Z club. One of the members had a 300ZX Turbo that he had built up to about 550 hp. That thing was amazing.
    Its surprisingly very easy to reach that power too. lol.
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    Someone correct me if I am wrong but I have heard from numerous mechanics the 300zx in particular the twin turbo variants are nightmare to maintain and work on. Any truth to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. T View Post
    Someone correct me if I am wrong but I have heard from numerous mechanics the 300zx in particular the twin turbo variants are nightmare to maintain and work on. Any truth to that?
    Yep. Worst car ever to work on, IMO.
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    NSX probably worse, but I pay someone else to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    NSX probably worse, but I pay someone else to do it.
    Not. Even. Close. The NSX is rough, but hardly as bad as the 300zx.
    300ZX is absolutely horrid to work on. The only other car that's more of a nightmare is maybe a 3000GT VR4.
    You can't run larger turbo housings in a Z32 cause it'll hit the strut towers. The vacuum hoses are a nightmare. Typical nissan brittle electrical clips. Injector connectors that don't always stay connected. Let's not forget HICAS.

    I love them though. Would never own one or work on one.

    in terms of Zs in the past 20+ years, from best to worst:
    1. 370z
    2. 300zx
    3. 350z
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