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Thread: Race line in Cool down lap

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    Default Race line in Cool down lap

    Would you take regular race line?
    Or stay away?
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    When I'm on a dry track with a healthy car I drive the racing line. I think it's best to be predictable and you end up with cleaner tires.
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    Be predictable. Some folks are still going fast for tire temps.
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    if you are, in fact, cooling down the car, it's best to stay on the racing line for reasons stated above. Another reason to do it is so you can take notice of markers and identifiers you might not see at speed. Try a curb here and there, etc.

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    as all stated about. Stay predictable. I pretty much run at a speed that I don't need use the brakes and 2 to 3k off red line. Oh and don't forget to wave to everybody!
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    cool down lap (and sometimes warm up lap) is the only time you can:

    1. look at your gauge more closely, you just cross finish line. make sure all gauges work, and analyze those numbers.
    2. look at track surface for bumps, elevation changes, camber, cracks.... you will learn a ton.
    3. look at curb closely, you will learn which curb to be more aggressive, which to stay away.
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    Depends- After a race if I finished 1st-3rd, I go offline to pick up tire slag to raise my minimum height..... :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plavan View Post
    Depends- After a race if I finished 1st-3rd, I go offline to pick up tire slag to raise my minimum height..... :P
    Only an NP01 racer would say that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    if you are, in fact, cooling down the car, it's best to stay on the racing line for reasons stated above. Another reason to do it is so you can take notice of markers and identifiers you might not see at speed. Try a curb here and there, etc.
    Let's say I run 2:10 in cool down lap but other cars(advance group) run around 1:58. Is it still safe to stay in race line?
    I usually stay away from raceline on straights but I still stay in line at corners.
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    As stated above, remain predictable by staying on the racing line. It is safer for everyone on the track at the time, imo.
    Advanced Group drivers SHOULD have a good grasp of safety margin and will pass safely where and when they can.
    Don't they usually say in the driver meetings something to the effect of "The passing driver has the responsibility to complete a safe pass" ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by j0nwall View Post
    As stated above, remain predictable by staying on the racing line. It is safer for everyone on the track at the time, imo.
    Advanced Group drivers SHOULD have a good grasp of safety margin and will pass safely where and when they can.
    Don't they usually say in the driver meetings something to the effect of "The passing driver has the responsibility to complete a safe pass" ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by jqsti2015 View Post
    Let's say I run 2:10 in cool down lap but other cars(advance group) run around 1:58. Is it still safe to stay in race line?
    I usually stay away from raceline on straights but I still stay in line at corners.
    This is actually the worst situation of all because it means you are moving around on the track unpredictably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    This is actually the worst situation of all because it means you are moving around on the track unpredictably.
    make sense.
    Thx for pointing out
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    I stay on line in line at pace of driver in front of me. I never understand whyy some guys go by me at race speed to jump into the pits for tire temps or whatever. Testdays are for that. The people being unpredictable are those jumping around others on the cool down lap. That is why it is a cooldown lap. But it is ok with me personally, I keep my spidy senses on until we get to impound
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    We don't pass after the flag so if you're crawling around you'll have a conga line behind you.
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    Normal racing line during cool down lap - at good enough speed to actually COOL using brakes a bit less.

    When instructing I'll sometimes suggest alternate lines at cool down speed so the student can see the track from other perspectives and get a sense of offline perspective - but a decent (safe) speed.


    I once saw a driver hit the wall during a cool down lap. It was simply relaxing and loss of concentration. Don't get casual while the car is moving on track - cool down or not.

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    I had a double bass instructor, Chicago Sym. Player, tell me once, "Always play it the same, especially when you're playing it slowly". i.e. learn to do it the same way every time.
    So, as long as everyone else is on a cool down lap, I stay on the line.
    If I'm stopping before the session is ending, i.e. qualifying and I've done my fastest already, I try to stay out of everyone's way.

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    Cool down lap should be taken as fast as possible with minimal throttle and brake useage. You don't need to cool down the tires so you should be near the limit when cornering but at low revs to cool the engine. Also the higher speeds will cool things off faster.
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