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    Default picked up my FR-S this weekend / data logger question

    I did a quick write up on my blog.

    FEcompetition | automotive exploits

    Its not a track focused blog entry, but a couple people have been asking about the car. I mention in the entry that I am interested in a data logger for it. Someone mentioned that AEM has one.

    Data Loggers - Wideband O2 UEGO, Water/Methanol, Stand Alone Engine Management, Piggyback F/IC, Tru Boost Controller, Gauges, Automotive Performance Electronics

    Has anyone here used this? Looks like it has all the features you'd want. It doesn't have a dash, but I wonder if it is compatible with one.

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    Awesome write up. Very nice to get an actual garage warrior enthusiast's point of view on stuff like wheel choices and brake upgrades. Everything i've been reading for the past 6 months are fluff pieces written by some guy who did 5 laps at an auto cross once and marvels how even he could get sideways. That or the other guy chose the shorter straw in the editors room and missed out on getting to review an avantor and is taking it out on the poor mid priced 'boy racers' car.

    Ill keep an eye on your blog for updates.

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    Great post. I have been reading all I can find about the car. Always find some info that makes me want the car more/less haha. I guess a test drive is in order. Question is, will it match the steep expectations I have considering I was interested in a nearly new AP2 S2k (same price range). I would be interested in a BRZ for DD and I know the s2000 is faster in a straight line at least. We need more info from Emilio methinks, especially considering he has had ample seat time in an S2k.

    Does anyone have any hard numbers on the wing that is stock/optional with the BRZ "premium" package?

    What I like/dislike (considering I have yet to drive the damn thing):
    Low CG, relatively low weight, NA with decent torque, well equipped (BRZ Premium), reasonable price and seems like a good value. Dislike the panel gap problems that have come up already, silly bolt pattern, no steering wheel controls, brakes look a bit small to me, and after that blog post how useless the back seats are. Also not the biggest fan of the Subaru "braaaat" rumble, hard to tell from videos if thats what this sounds like and some people have hinted it seems to have a pretty heavy flywheel. Unknowns are aftermarket, reliability and potential. In fact, we still don't really know if its that fast. It would be interesting to see what the potential for bolt-ons is. An 8th gen civic si can make 220-250whp naturally aspirated with basic bolt-ons and tuning. Thats plenty.

    S2000 will be used but! Its also light, faster in a drag (faster on a medium/small track?), known potential/aftermarket, bipolar engine (I love it personally, it makes you work hard), proven to be honda reliable. The convertible thing is a bonus for me but also makes it less suited to all-year vehicle. Probably higher in insurance costs, possibly maintenance costs.
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    Everyone here is too polite to say it...

    I think I speak for everybody:

    "WE WANT TO KNOW HOW FAST IT GOES AROUND BW#13CW"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    Everyone here is too polite to say it...

    I think I speak for everybody:

    "WE WANT TO KNOW HOW FAST IT GOES AROUND BW#13CW"
    Apparently not EVERYONE is too polite . . .
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    haha. is that a little sarcasm William? I am interested in bench marking for sure. And I figured that BW#13CW would be the best place - not because I like it, but because with the exception of members of this forum, nobody knows what a fast time around BW#1CCW is.

    I am crossing my fingers on how it compares to a S2k stock to stock...
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    Check out the drag race. Shows the advantage of the torque in 1st:


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    ugh. they took 2 cars that suck in a straight line and compared them. Do they then also race minivans around an auto x course? :P
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    The current issue of AutoWeek (June 11, 2012) has "first drive" articles on the BRZ and FRS. They seem to like the BRZ a little better. Also, they said the FRS was softer in the front; I thought it was the other way around and the BRZ had a softer suspension. They tested the FRS at Spring Mtn. but didn't print a lap time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    The current issue of AutoWeek (June 11, 2012) has "first drive" articles on the BRZ and FRS. They seem to like the BRZ a little better. Also, they said the FRS was softer in the front; I thought it was the other way around and the BRZ had a softer suspension. They tested the FRS at Spring Mtn. but didn't print a lap time.
    Posbt said that the BRZ was softer, and that was one of the reasons that made it a bit more manageable and faster around streets. I don't know who to believe anymore!!!!

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    From what I've read, the FRS has stiffer rear springs and rear bushings, which is why some are saying the BRZ has a slight tendency of understeer compared to the FRS tendency to oversteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neocataboi View Post
    Posbt said that the BRZ was softer, and that was one of the reasons that made it a bit more manageable and faster around streets. I don't know who to believe anymore!!!!
    Pobst >> Random Auto journalist. I will take Pob's word every time and therefore the BRZ is softer. I wonder, are they on the same tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heelntoe View Post
    Probably higher in insurance costs, possibly maintenance costs.
    Actually the insurance isn't too bad on the S2000. I don't own one yet, but Mercury quoted me $115 for 6 months, full coverage, $500 deductible. It sounded too good to be true so I called again to make sure and behold, it was correct.
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