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    What I find interesting is that the lower "cheating mode enabled" numbers match the advertised specs, whilst the output customers will see while driving greatly exceed the advertised numbers.

    This is bad news for anyone hoping to sue for false advertising or fraud as VW probably did not advertise specific emissions numbers which people might have relied upon when purchasing the vehicle.
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    On "emission testing" mode it is short 4hp and 8 ft/lbs.

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    As an owner of one of these cars, the only way I feel I have been "harmed" is that the resale value of my vehicle is no doubt less than before all of this came to light.

    I did not buy it based on any emission claims, but rather MPG claims, which it easily exceeds.

    I am getting at least 1 letter/day from an attorney wanting me to jump in on their class action suit LOL

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    Could it be that the the car has been better than advertised power/mileage... That's why people love them... Put it in test mode and you get the advertised power/mileage...

    If that's right... VW does a software update and buys some carbon credits from Tesla... and apologizes a few more time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawareca View Post
    On "emission testing" mode it is short 4hp and 8 ft/lbs.
    On that particular car, on that particular dyno, and on that particular day. I'm going to say that's right on the factory numbers. Whereas the "street" tune awards torque way in excess of what was claimed by VW.
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    I have problem believe this test reflects VW's cheat.

    It is way too little power loss for VW to cheat. They were caught last year and was forced to do a recall in December 2014. They couldn't fix it over few whp loss ? No way they would risk all that over few whp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craZee View Post

    I am getting at least 1 letter/day from an attorney wanting me to jump in on their class action suit LOL

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    You will be able to fund your F1 career with all the money you will collect on the lawsuit !!

    TDI owners will strike it rich IMO.
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    ^^ Like all class-action lawsuits, the attorneys are the only ones who will get rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    I have problem believe this test reflects VW's cheat.

    It is way too little power loss for VW to cheat. They were caught last year and was forced to do a recall in December 2014. They couldn't fix it over few whp loss ? No way they would risk all that over few whp.
    But we dont know how much the fuel efficiency will be hit. Could be 5-10 mpg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    You will be able to fund your F1 career with all the money you will collect on the lawsuit !!

    TDI owners will strike it rich IMO.

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    TFLCar's Jetta Dyno Test Doesn't Show Us "Test Mode"

    Calling out this particular test as invalid
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    TFLCar's Jetta Dyno Test Doesn't Show Us "Test Mode"

    Calling out this particular test as invalid
    Yeah, it was a little WTF that they were comparing 4wd to 2wd numbers. Had me scratching my head.

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    Has CARB ever revoked a certification for a production vehicle? Why is not one putting some of the blame on them for their testing procedure?
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