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    I sat in my friend's NP01 and I don't see how I could make it work either. I am 6' 3" tall and weigh 220 lbs. I have 36.5" inseam. We took the seat shell out and my legs just did fit but I think my head with helmet would be a problem. I would need some sort of seat she'll to be comfortable and that would make the head and legs situations worse. It seems they didn't think the cockpit dimensions through very well.
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    I should also add that although the pedals are adjustable they are adjusted as far forward as they will go even for Richard at 5 foot 10.
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    that really sucks to hear...

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    Really odd. You'd think for racing at this level they'd want to take up to 6'6"

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    I saw a white and blue NP01 at today's Speedventures event at Buttonwillow. Cool car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Really odd. You'd think for racing at this level they'd want to take up to 6'6"
    That was my thought, clean sheet of paper and all. Not to stereotype but most of the potential buyers of these cars are in the luxury part of their life.
    They don't have to work a lot anymore and have often added on a little padding. Not 5-9, 150 lbs pro driver builds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Well it is official, there is no way in hell that I'm going to fit in it. We took the seat out of the car and I sat on the gas tank. With my knees against the dash bar, there was no additional room to put the OEM seat shell in.
    Just barely enough Headroom but that's with me sitting on the frame without the seat in place. Richard is about 5-10, slim and even he would like the steering wheel higher than it is currently adjusted but that is as far up as it goes. With me in the car the steering wheel really needs to be a good inch higher. For me to fit well in the car with SFI padding on the dash bar, the dash bar would need to be raised a good two inches. Frankly I don't know how they're going to get drivers much more than about 6 or 6-1 into the car if they have any meat on their bones. I am super skinny at 163 pounds so anybody that's a normal thickness, say 190 pounds and 6 feet tall it's probably not going to fit into this thing. Really dissapointed and so is Richard. Oh well.
    I'm surprised you can't fit since Brett at least weighs more than you, is similar height and he was able to drive it. Maybe he sat on the floor.
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    I sat in an unpoured seat with chunks of foam around me. Knee room was at a premium, but I had plenty of headroom, so I figured some padding under my butt would lower my knees enough to be comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP Mike View Post
    . . . It has grown on me some, I must admit.
    Just given the specs, I thought it would have been much slower than it has turned out to be. . .

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    What range of BRP lap times are you seeing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Caboose View Post
    What range of BRP lap times are you seeing?
    To the best of my knowledge, it has not run with official timing on any of Buttonwillow's full courses yet. First race is this weekend on No. 13 CCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    To the best of my knowledge, it has not run with official timing on any of Buttonwillow's full courses yet. First race is this weekend on No. 13 CCW.
    Richard did some 1:55's just shaking the car down. We think it'll dip under 1:50 with good weather.
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    Hop in with Randy Pobst:

    Track Drive: Mazda-Powered 2016 NASA Elan NP01 Race Car
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    Sorry about the fit. I also have my pedals all the way forward. I'm 5'11, 185 and fit no problem. I even have a top air helmet and it works without rubbing up top.

    My first time out in the car at BW CW13 I ran 1:52- 53's without even know what I was doing in the car. Thats right out of the box, no shock/spring adjustments or anything.
    The car is fast, just not very fun when you are on the track with street cars. They kill your momentum, and the NP01 is not a torque monster. Not to mention the street cars were throwing mud all over the track making it super slippery.

    Again, you have to be in great shape to run this car. Heavy steering when pulling the g's.

    BTW here is "Gumby" Ken Koch (6'4") in a NP01 testing it for the first time working some bugs out. Height is the issue, there is plenty of room for weight.
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    Steering wheel looks tiny. A larger one would make it easier on your hands/arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtopz View Post
    Steering wheel looks tiny. A larger one would make it easier on your hands/arms.
    I'm already looking into this, but your thighs are very close to your hands when you are at 12 and 6. If I get a 1" extension to the steering rod, I think I can get a slightly bigger wheel.
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    Try a D ring wheel.

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    At 5'3" I have the same problem as Emilio, but for the opposite reason. I use a kiddy booster seats whenever I go rent a kart because otherwise I could not reach the pedals. Moti had to build my cage high because I am seated so far forward. Being a statistic outlier sucks, sometimes.
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    Moti: how viable is to cut the knee bar and raise (curved bar) it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    Moti: how viable is to cut the knee bar and raise (curved bar) it ?
    It's easy actually.

    No room for a bigger steering wheel in NP01 unless you are built very small. Any normal size driver already has hands close to thighs. So we looked at reducing caster on Richards car.. no adjustment.
    As much as I dig the car, I get the strong feeling Elan had trouble meeting NASA's deadlines and rushed it into production. Early adopters are beta testers. They showed rows of major production components on facebook then 4 weeks later were doing initial track testing to make sure the car worked.
    Jeremy is still working on baseline setups for the car. IOW, they put the car into serial production long before development was complete. In a year I think it will be dialed but after looking at Richards car carefully and talking with him for a few hours, I think it's still a WIP. That all said, cars finished the 25. That's a strong indicator of the inherent
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    I would tend to think that at least at this point, modifying the structure would make the car illegal from the "spec" standpoint. That doesn't mean it can't happen (see the half-assed "tallman" roll hoop on SRFs that they all have now), but it should be approached from the standpoint of getting a specific piece of engineering with a specific shape approved as an "alternate" part/kit/whatnot.

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