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    87 classes! That's almost how many cars they had out at the last TT session at Sonoma!

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    I'm thinking the one on the right is a scale model of an old-style Can-Am car? Wasn't someonefloating around a spec series of v8-powered McLaren lookalikes a while back?

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    It has something to do with Mazda. Maybe the engine.

    At least that is what Mazda says on their FB page.

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    NASA Prototype Series (NP)

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    $65k. I want one. Bad. So, so *****in'.

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    But how fast is it around BW13 ?
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    What are the specs on the 2015 srf for comparison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    What are the specs on the 2015 srf for comparison?
    Answering my own question, looks like for the 3rd gen SRF:

    130whp, 1600lbs min weight with driver, $34,000.

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    1800lbs with driver?, 185 hp (at wheels? at crank?), downforce, slippery aero, sequential, $65,000,

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    No doubt it'll be quicker than an SRF. The SADEV gearbox will be fun. But holy cow will summer runs at Buttonwillow be toasty. Forget about cool suit, I think you'd want the entire cockpit filled with dry ice just before leaving the paddock.

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    Rob,

    Is 34k the price for the gen 3 SRF assembled ? 65k for the NASA car is the price in kit form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Answering my own question, looks like for the 3rd gen SRF:

    130whp, 1600lbs min weight with driver, $34,000.

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    1800lbs with driver?, 185 hp (at wheels? at crank?), downforce, slippery aero, sequential, $65,000,
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    I like the looks of the NASA protoype style spec car. It looks cool. But at $65k for a build-it-yourself car I predict it is going to be a rough climb.

    Personally, I would prefer to go to SRF for half the price and 10 times the number of cars racing I predict. I just wish the SRFs had a more modern and cool look like this prototype, although I concede that is a vanity reason and not a very good racing reason.
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    Mark,

    I believe the $34k is in kit form -- assembly through a CSR is typically about $5,000. With data logging, etc., I'd suspect a true shiny new roller" could run $42 grand or so.

    However, with hundreds of good, straight cars out there right now, it's pretty easy to buy current Gen2 car and convert it as Gen3, install data logging, etc., and still be under $30,000. The great thing about tube frame cars is that if they align, weight, etc., straight, they are just as good as new cars. A number of the first 100 cars built are still very active and more and a few are still winning races!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    I just wish the SRFs had a more modern and cool look like this prototype, although I concede that is a vanity reason and not a very good racing reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    I like the looks of the NASA protoype style spec car. It looks cool. But at $65k for a build-it-yourself car I predict it is going to be a rough climb.

    Personally, I would prefer to go to SRF for half the price and 10 times the number of cars racing I predict. I just wish the SRFs had a more modern and cool look like this prototype, although I concede that is a vanity reason and not a very good racing reason.
    SRFs are just a dog power wise, even with the 25 more for this year. Light weight is great and all, but 100hp doesn't move air for sh!t.

    I've been rather enjoying the 180whp my RX-8 has. Nice to be in a car that doesn't lay down and die at 100mph.
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    I haven't driven SRF, but I have driven the grand daddy RSR that the SRF came from and boy was that thing unbelievably slow in a straight line.
    300 RPM gained in the entire front straight of Buttonwillow...

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    I can't speak to the Renault cars, but I know the Fords still get along. It might not be a Corvette, but it's certainly quicker than a Spec Miata even at Cal Speedway and Willow Springs... and with the new engine it'll be quicker. Guys at Daytona are talking close to 150mph in the draft. But there are always faster cars out there...

    But to Oli's point... how long will it take to get 30 car fields with a $65,000 cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveLevin View Post
    I can't speak to the Renault cars, but I know the Fords still get along. It might not be a Corvette, but it's certainly quicker than a Spec Miata even at Cal Speedway and Willow Springs... and with the new engine it'll be quicker. Guys at Daytona are talking close to 150mph in the draft. But there are always faster cars out there...

    But to Oli's point... how long will it take to get 30 car fields with a $65,000 cars?

    Steve
    Don't even try to bring spec miatas into this, haha. Being faster than an SM isn't anything to brag about if you're a tube frame purpose built race car.


    Sure the NP01's sequential is sexy and all, but how much cheaper would it have been with a 4 speed?

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    I agree that at 65k it will take a while if ever to get healthy fields. For about 30k one could buy a Sports 2000 and instantly have someone to race with.

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    Steve, the Renault had ~90 HP originally IIRC and a 4 speed trans.
    I want to say the SRF has 25 HP more and another gear, right?

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