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    Seth, the one thing that you are missing is that the drivetrain loss in the transverse drivetrain is a good bit lower than a traditional FR drivetrain.
    Everything is inline, no 90 degree turns.

    Not sure what's the big deal with the fuel economy numbers, no one buys a sports car because it will save them money on fuel... IMO it's the equivalent of buying a Playboy mag to read political analysis articles.
    If I buy one, I expect it to be visiting red line all the time and couldn't give two ****s about whether it's supposed to get 3 MPGs more or less.

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    Because the Miata is a budget sports car that needs lots of non-enthusiasts to purchase them is why fuel economy is important. Many Miatas are daily drivers and if they aren't getting at least similar fuel economy as a comparably priced econobox, it makes the decision even less rational. I do believe that most people buying cars in the Miata price range care about fuel economy. Let's not forget about fuel economy and endurance racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    Because the Miata is a budget sports car that needs lots of non-enthusiasts to purchase them is why fuel economy is important. Many Miatas are daily drivers and if they aren't getting at least similar fuel economy as a comparably priced econobox, it makes the decision even less rational. I do believe that most people buying cars in the Miata price range care about fuel economy. Let's not forget about fuel economy and endurance racing.
    Fuel economy at cruise has little to do with fuel economy at full throttle.

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    There's no reason for a sports car to have similar fuel economy numbers of some econobox.
    Higher drag, shorter gearing, higher rolling resistance (tires), higher drivetrain loss comparing to your typical FWD.

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    Moti, just because what you're saying makes sense to people who know what you're talking about, that's only a small percentage of Miata buyers. I would bet many don't know it's RWD or really don't care. The Miata needs to sell to that group so it can still be around for the lesser numbers who want to make race cars out of them. Fuel efficiency is important to most people buying a car in the Miata price range.
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    Ok I'm a dummy. I posted pics of what my buddy told me was the differential and cooler of the 2016 Global Cup car but looking at it I thought no he probably sent me pics of the NC Skip Barber Nasa Champion Car he was driving and simply a mistake in translation.

    Well I took down the pics but nope he was right. It looks like the NC diff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrx13 View Post
    Ok I'm a dummy. I posted pics of what my buddy told me was the differential and cooler of the 2016 Global Cup car but looking at it I thought no he probably sent me pics of the NC Skip Barber Nasa Champion Car he was driving and simply a mistake in translation.

    Well I took down the pics but nope he was right. It looks like the NC diff?
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    NCs need a diff cooler? Strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    NCs need a diff cooler? Strange.
    So does your NA8, you just don't know it. 290 diff, 270 trans is pretty typical for a 130whp Miata HPDE/race car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    So does your NA8, you just don't know it. 290 diff, 270 trans is pretty typical for a 130whp Miata HPDE/race car.
    If the diff lives the longest, does it really though?

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    Apparently there was a sneak peak of the ND in Malibu this afternoon. I saw the info too late to go but here's the first pic I've seen of the car in black. I appears to be a Club with the BBS/Brembo package. I don't think I'd buy a black car but I think it looks great.

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    Looks like Edmunds weighed an ND Club with full tank of gas - 2309 pounds.

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    In 2014 we tested an #MX5 Club that weighed in at 2,560 pounds. In 2015 we tested a Grand Touring @mazdausa #Miata and it weighed 2,504 lbs. This pre-production 2016 MX-5, with a full tank of gas (and missing some body work that normally comes with the Brembo/BBS package) comes in at just 2,309 pounds. That's a pretty serious diet. #EdmundsCars #tracktestuesday
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    Z4 esque "forward mid-engine".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Seth, the one thing that you are missing is that the drivetrain loss in the transverse drivetrain is a good bit lower than a traditional FR drivetrain.
    Everything is inline, no 90 degree turns.

    Not sure what's the big deal with the fuel economy numbers, no one buys a sports car because it will save them money on fuel... IMO it's the equivalent of buying a Playboy mag to read political analysis articles.
    If I buy one, I expect it to be visiting red line all the time and couldn't give two ****s about whether it's supposed to get 3 MPGs more or less.
    Indeed, that does explain some of the discrepancy in mileage--though I bet it's negligible. Once those parts are rotating, say at freeway speed, the stored energy will keep them rotating.

    My main point was supposed to be about power. The new direct injection motors are making **** for power.
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