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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ1 View Post
    Corvette = fine wine!
    Old label; long legacy; a moderately intense, well resolved blend; and a lush nose with a pleasant note of leather and brake dust.
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    Interesting...:

    Bob Finley: "GT350R or GT4?"

    Randy Pobst: "R. GT4 understeers too much, and stability control cannot be fully switched off. Good idea for many. I am annoyed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Caboose View Post
    Old label; long legacy; a moderately intense, well resolved blend; and a lush nose with a pleasant note of leather and brake dust.
    The Vette is a better wine than I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fe4 View Post
    I've run from 255 to 315 front tires on my C5 Z06 and while the big tire thing definitely makes the car feel better and helps with tire wear I am not sure it makes the car a whole lot faster. At least for the couple laps per session I run.
    I'm sure there is a sweet spot somewhere in that range. Wider definitely isnt always better, but a 245 section seems a bit narrow for something like the Z51. Tire compound would also be a tremendous help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Interesting...:

    Bob Finley: "GT350R or GT4?"

    Randy Pobst: "R. GT4 understeers too much, and stability control cannot be fully switched off. Good idea for many. I am annoyed."
    Porsche has a 2 stage PSM. Maybe Randy didnt know how to disable it fully? Chris Harris' video certainly depicts how a very controllable powerslide is possible in the GT4. However, price alone would steer me towards a GT350R, not to mention the epic sound it generates.

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    Hes a Porsche specialist, races and owns them so I doubt it... Which is why that quote really surprised me.

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    Yeah definitely surprising. I just can't wait for a more flushed out review comparing the two cars to read or hear the particular nuances that he finds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    As much as love what this car is about, not having driven one, the needle swings towards (not interested) when I see what it weighs. 3650 lbs
    It is very likely one of best handling and most track capable 3650lb cars on the planet. It will also get its butt kicked by the best handling 2650lb car on the planet with the same power to weight ratio.

    Me? I would actually buy a stripped out Mustang with no back seats or carpet that made say 320whp with a cheap Ecoboost but weighed 2950 lbs. All. Day. Long
    Stop thinking like a Miata driver. Yes they are a big car. More then likely you can make a lesser one faster for less. The numbers don't equate how it fells on the track. Yes it is hefty on paper. But it doesn't drive like it is that heavy.

    Just buy one. If you can and if it's not to your liking you can always sell it and most likely for more then you got it for.
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    Personally, I'm not a fan of the muti-mode exhaust. It has some very cool features and it has impressive sound and technology. But I think it would be better hanging on the wall in the garage. To many things to go wrong in a very harsh environment. That way you can look at it an go... oooh that's cool. Then put it back on for re-sell.
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    Pretty much all exotics have active exhausts and IMO its the best of both worlds and eliminates the need for an aftermarket exhaust. All cars need it.

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    Yup active *insert XYZ here* is becoming the norm. Allows OE's to produce a road legal car and still have it make your ears, chest and ass hurt when in full "race" mode. Frankly I think they've even got good enough at tuning an engine for both performance and emissions to negate the need for a track-key like the old Boss LS had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gian View Post
    Stop thinking like a Miata driver. Yes they are a big car. More then likely you can make a lesser one faster for less. The numbers don't equate how it fells on the track. Yes it is hefty on paper. But it doesn't drive like it is that heavy.

    Just buy one. If you can and if it's not to your liking you can always sell it and most likely for more then you got it for.
    Pretzel logic but ok, I'll bite.

    You know I also own a C6 ZO6 right? I chose it over many other supercars because, wait for it..at 3050 lbs it's the lightest high powered car that mere mortals can afford. Nothing else is even close actually. It feels hellishly fast but still ponderous after driving one of my Miatas. This driver prefers agility over horsepower. So no, this driver will never spend his money on a 3650 lb sports coupe no matter how cool it is. Just the same, its an amazing car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Pretzel logic but ok, I'll bite.

    You know I also own a C6 ZO6 right? I chose it over many other supercars because, wait for it..at 3050 lbs it's the lightest high powered car that mere mortals can afford. Nothing else is even close actually. It feels hellishly fast but still ponderous after driving one of my Miatas. This driver prefers agility over horsepower. So no, this driver will never spend his money on a 3650 lb sports coupe no matter how cool it is. Just the same, its an amazing car.
    I always thought it was insanity that you owned the z06, but still preferred the Miata. Then I got an NA Miata and I instantly knew exactly what you meant. I actually liked the NA better overall than my lighter, mid engined car that I was driving previously. That's just crazy. Now, I just need to drive a z06 to make sure you aren't insane

    I've sold the NA to my brother who was driving a z3 previously. The z3 is a whole lot faster than the Miata, better looking, reasonable 50-50 weight distribution, and at about 2,900 lbs it's not even heavy, but he likes driving the Miata much more. #thingsmiatadriversknow

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    fallible, twisted or circular resaoning that when dissected is wrong, does not make sense or does not explain the situation rationally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    fallible, twisted or circular resaoning that when dissected is wrong, does not make sense or does not explain the situation rationally.
    Oh, that's everyone everyday then.

    Am I the the only one who thinks the painted diffuser on the new Mustang is ugly? The car would be pretty good looking without it. I appreciate Ford moved away from the cheap-looking fake plastic diffusers that is in vogue. But, the mustang diffuser makes the rear look stunted and tall. They should paint it black.
    I'm seeing these things all over the place in Anaheim though.
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    I guess Ford put something on my drink at the Laguna event... ended up buying a Fiesta ST as my new daily . Car is pretty fun in stock form, but desperately needs better cooling and a front diff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDSUsnowboards View Post
    What is pretzel logic?
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    It true, I am just messing Emilio. We all know he is a very calculating driver and picks out his rides the same way. Then builds his car, as well, the same way. Using as much technology with in his grasp and doing it very well.
    But even though everything doesn't add up on paper. He is still thinking about it.... Because it's in his nature
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Pretty much all exotics have active exhausts and IMO its the best of both worlds and eliminates the need for an aftermarket exhaust. All cars need it.
    I do get that part. And do agree to a point. If you have the money to own and maintain a high $$ vehicle. You should be able to afford to repair them to factory spec. In this case it would be better to leave things alone. They are designed for the vehicle as a whole and messing with any one component will upset the balance.

    But with everything that's happening in the exhaust (heat, moisture and then, though it's a small a mount, carbon). Things will get sticky and corrode.
    Most AF exhaust will be lighter and last longer. Besides, you know how America love f*#king with stuff. We gotta be just a little different then the other guy.

    Mustang owners are the best at spending more money on dodads and go fast parts. Just to be a little cooler the other Mustang owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Pretzel logic but ok, I'll bite.

    You know I also own a C6 ZO6 right? I chose it over many other supercars because, wait for it..at 3050 lbs it's the lightest high powered car that mere mortals can afford. Nothing else is even close actually. It feels hellishly fast but still ponderous after driving one of my Miatas. This driver prefers agility over horsepower. So no, this driver will never spend his money on a 3650 lb sports coupe no matter how cool it is. Just the same, its an amazing car.
    ...and then imagine getting into a car with Miata-like power that weighs 500+ pounds less, like a new SRF. Or even more exciting, something like an FC/F2000 car that's got 160+hp and weighs half what a Miata weighs!

    That's why pure race cars are so much fun.

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