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    Quote Originally Posted by pucsicsal View Post
    Thumb fail, spec piñata style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=645gZR6OKsA
    Agreed. We just had two socal miata racers go inactive just before the 25 hour thanks to injuries from their thumbs getting bashed.

    Thumbs on top folks!

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    Wow that thumb video makes me wonder about my thumb placement. I wonder how he injured his thumb. Was it because his thumb was wrapped around the wheel at impact?

    Edit: Nevermind. I found my own answer from above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsam5886 View Post
    Wow that thumb video makes me wonder about my thumb placement. I wonder how he injured his thumb. Was it because his thumb was wrapped around the wheel at impact?

    Edit: Nevermind. I found my own answer from above.
    One more note, if you're not crashing into things, it doesn't really matter, but if you think you might do wheel to wheel someday, get the habit NOW. It's tough to retrain yourself.

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    Yup. Good thing I've got that all sorted out. I've developed the habit of having my thumb positioned either way. I try to practice all the little things in my daily driving.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZptobZNMEyo

    Antithesis to the OP's video. Not sure who's seen it yet, but it's the funniest track video I've ever seen. Guaranteed lols

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    Quote Originally Posted by pucsicsal View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZptobZNMEyo

    Antithesis to the OP's video. Not sure who's seen it yet, but it's the funniest track video I've ever seen. Guaranteed lols
    I nominate this for the 2009 instructor of the year award!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsam5886 View Post
    Yup. Good thing I've got that all sorted out. I've developed the habit of having my thumb positioned either way. I try to practice all the little things in my daily driving.
    Good idea. Paying attention to little things really helps. If you were to go on a racing school the first thing said would be "don't try to drive fast, drive right and speed will eventually join the ride".

    I know this statement is probably not as popular amongst all of the people here, but nonetheless it is true.

    As far as the thumbs, I drive with them hooked, on the road, track or stage. I have bumped my front tire quite hard once. During my tuition in rallying, I also generally kept my thumb inside and it was fine, apart from highly technical bits that were done with the thumb on the rim. In the majority of the profeesiona racing schools I have been (I know you do not want to hear) the advice was to hook the thumbs unless off road (and believe me, the instructors knew what they were saying).
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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVSAzS37rb8[/YOUTUBE]

    Best holding technique is to duct tape one hand on the steering wheel.

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    Clearly the best grip is 9 and 3, we can all agree about that, at least. If the corner is really sharp (in a track, usually relevant only to hairpins) we want to maintain the 9:15 position for as long as possible while steering.

    By the way, Charles, having posted this, and having been titled the trackhq prodrifter, I must ask about why Japanese drifters seem to keep one hand stationary on the wheel and yanking and rotating it with the other hand. Is this intentional? What benefits are gained from this, in your take?
    Last edited by Astraist; 02-22-2010 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astraist View Post
    By the way, Charles, having posted this, and having been titled the trackhq prodrifter, I must ask about why Japanese drifters seem to keep one hand stationary on the wheel and yanking and rotating it with the other hand. Is this intentional? What benefits are gained from this, in your take?
    Um. Didn't you watch the video?

    BECAUSE THEIR HANDS ARE TAPED TO THE WHEEL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Um. Didn't you watch the video?

    BECAUSE THEIR HANDS ARE TAPED TO THE WHEEL...
    He meant 'in general'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Tyler View Post
    He meant 'in general'....
    Obviously you know nothing of drifting or the Japanese culture. It's an honor to have a hand taped to the steering wheel. It's the sign of commitment and skill.

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    Billy, I am indeed talking in general. When I look at drifters, they appear to all share a specific style of rotating the wheel, which usually involves keeping one hand stationary and yanking it around with the other hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Obviously you know nothing of drifting or the Japanese culture. It's an honor to have a hand taped to the steering wheel. It's the sign of commitment and skill.
    You obviously not a fan of Initial D, haha! Its a famous scene where Takumi(main character) was forced to go on a "duct tape death match" with a civic for a downhill battle.

    Tsuchiya-san was testing the real life possibility of it and was quite nervous while filming.

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSl4oVwvqk[/YOUTUBE]

    Quote Originally Posted by Astraist View Post
    Billy, I am indeed talking in general. When I look at drifters, they appear to all share a specific style of rotating the wheel, which usually involves keeping one hand stationary and yanking it around with the other hand.
    not sure what you taking about, if you are talking about Japanese D1 drifters, they always all go full lock, there's no way you can keep one hand there stationary unless you wanna break your wrist. Here's a 100pt run by Kawabata.

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UZOx0zjgg[/YOUTUBE]

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    In this particular (and amazing) video the driver appears to let the wheel go (common in high-level drifting), but appears to than wind the lock-off/make corrections by shuffling the hands (a course of action I do not like).

    By "stationary" I mean in one position, rubbing against the rim and letting it run under it with control. It appears to be popular in drifting, and I want to know if drifters do this intentionally and if it supposed to provide better control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiataCharles_Hong_Kong View Post
    You obviously not a fan of Initial D, haha! Its a famous scene where Takumi(main character) was forced to go on a "duct tape death match" with a civic for a downhill battle.

    Tsuchiya-san was testing the real life possibility of it and was quite nervous while filming.
    What do you know? You drive a Honda. You're a dirty driver.

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    Hey guys, been lurking for more than a couple months. I was introduced to this forum via timeattackforum, after Altraist posted his guide and one of you (Sherrif?) responded in kind. Always get a good laugh and good advice. Drive and mostly autox a bone stock Civic Si (FA5). Track is too expensive. Mission Raceway is the only local track, Canada BC. and portland and SIR are reasonable driving distance. Maybe this summer. Anyways, not to thread jack;

    (Kinda offtopic but I know how well this flies here, especially with where this thread wen)
    You guys might enjoy this then

    Part 1
    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izLA0dnCTlY[/YOUTUBE]
    Part 2
    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugd_ZBlW-c8[/YOUTUBE]
    Last edited by heelntoe; 02-23-2010 at 11:29 AM.

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    Ha! "This ain't five and six, to me it's 'fix' "

    Great video of the "oh no GTO!"

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    Astraist just has to be a gimmick account. Has to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    Astraist just has to be a gimmick account. Has to be.
    Should we start a poll to see who it is? LOL:

    Burgoon's 3rd 'secret identity'
    The Sheriff
    The Icelandic Bastard (Oli)
    Jeff "Retard" Tyler
    Shanghai Night's Charles (aka: Drifty-Bobby)
    Miata William
    949 Emilio
    Your's truly




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