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    Justin Wilson or Filipe Massa would approve:

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    Filipe's crash:

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    This device would not have saved Massa from that incident.
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    has anyone investigated the use of a F-16-style canopy? Sure, it won't stop all intrusions but it should deflect most debris.

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    Another word for that device is "pit crew slicer"

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    I guess we'll just have to start making these.


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    Closed cockpit in Malaysia. What fun! I'll bet we see some massive R&D on A/C systems if closed cockpits are implemented. That might be an entirely new area for technology crossover to production cars.
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    At some point, you just recreate LMP1, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeColangelo View Post
    has anyone investigated the use of a F-16-style canopy? Sure, it won't stop all intrusions but it should deflect most debris.
    Yes the FIA tested them but they didn't like them because when they shot parts at them they were deflected high in the air which they fear could end up injuring spectators. Also they are concerned that it could make it more difficult to get the drivers out in a crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markn View Post
    Closed cockpit in Malaysia. What fun! I'll bet we see some massive R&D on A/C systems if closed cockpits are implemented. That might be an entirely new area for technology crossover to production cars.
    I'd imagine you could get good cooling effect via adjustable ram air at race speeds. In the pits, perhaps use an A/C cooling cart similar to how fighter jet cockpits are cooled on the ground?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDSUsnowboards View Post
    This device would not have saved Massa from that incident.
    I don't think it would have helped Justin Wilson, either.

    The F15 canopy seems to be a viable answer until you consider all the problems it creates, which have been pointed out: heat and driver evacuation.

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    this seems only marginally better...

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    another downside for the fighter jet cockpit design is if it does deflect an object perfectly...its gonna go deflecting/flying/launching in the air and possibly towards the fans/crowd. So no bueno for fan safety. The FIA video showed this issue.
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    yeah, that's a pretty strong case against the fighter jet type... they would much rather have these parts stick in the driver's heads than be deflected into the crowd of spectators.. even though you never, or very, very, rarely hear about a fan being injured by debris that's deflected by the windshields that protect many other types of racers. The thing that makes the debris so dangerous to the F1 drivers is the speed that the drivers are travelling at when they hit the stuff.. isn't it?

    Maybe I'm wrong but I think that's a piss poor excuse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by slodrew View Post
    yeah, that's a pretty strong case against the fighter jet type... they would much rather have these parts stick in the driver's heads than be deflected into the crowd of spectators.. even though you never, or very, very, rarely hear about a fan being injured by debris that's deflected by the windshields that protect many other types of racers. The thing that makes the debris so dangerous to the F1 drivers is the speed that the drivers are travelling at when they hit the stuff.. isn't it?

    Maybe I'm wrong but I think that's a piss poor excuse..
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