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    In which I demonstrate the art of going two-off at the exit:



    We're still working on the reentry thing.

    I was so confident in my ability to salvage the situation (done it often enough before) that I kept it matted throughout. I did almost everything right: kept the steering cranked in until the last instant, widened it generously, drove the car back towards the track using the inside wheels.

    My undoing was the bump. The dirt is a few inches lower than the track there. When the right rear hit the asphalt, the whole rear end of the car was kicked into the air, the left rear lost traction and this was too much for even the small amount of steering input I was using.

    My newbie mistake was failing to hold the steering perfectly centered when bring the outside wheels back on. That cost me one qualifying spot, a front bumper and my favorite pair of Hello Kitty panties. But the lesson is learned, won't make that mistake again.

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    Yeah should have countered a bit more and straightened a bit more before bringing it back on with very small steering angle.
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    This is how you do it at T9 Big Willow.


    I wished i straightened out more earlier and countered a little earlier as well.

    Then there was this one from T9 entry...


    Oops...drifted around the turn in cone "on purpose". lol.
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    I would agree lap times are only one element of being a good driver. Awareness, adaptability to different cars tendencies and track conditions, consistency of min speeds, and good decision making are other elements that come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlee1234 View Post
    I think I understand what you are saying, but can you elaborate?
    I assume he means, you can buy schumachers old ferrari, bring the whole ferrari factory team and barely beat the lap record at buttonwillow. You're fast, but not good.

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    The raged edge gets harder and scarier to pursue the faster the car is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazik View Post
    I assume he means, you can buy schumachers old ferrari, bring the whole ferrari factory team and barely beat the lap record at buttonwillow. You're fast, but not good.
    Also, it's one thing to run fast laps on an empty track. It's another thing to race in close traffic passing safely, not interfering with other class races, not punting your competition, etc.
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    my example is a car not driven at more than 70% and no where near any ragged edge. except maybe one of skill.

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    Track awareness, car control, consistency, ability to not destroy tires, brakes, shocks, etc..., ability to recognize and anticipate faster cars so neither of you lose time, protect the car, knows the line, knows how to position the car for a pass, is mentally focused, is physically fit, thinks the long game and can think on his feet, able to drive with issues, able to communicate handling characteristics to help engineer or whoever setup the car, able to troubleshoot issues and relay messages to the team while driving, able to understand car dynamics and physics, understands important of telemetry and how to properly utilize it, able to win, nurse a hurt car, manage car issues...etc lists goes on and on and on for pages and pages.

    That is called a perfect and complete driver. You can be fast for that 2min for 1 lap with no traffic, but can you do a double stint in the heat in a race with out of class cars and similarly setup/power cars, crank out consistent laps every lap, not make mistakes...and not lose time getting passed or passing, etc and win.
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    And when i first drove a stick shift the very very first time...i thought that was hard. LOL. I have grown alot as a driver. Many decades of learning to do. I think I am at 40% there and 60% to go to becoming a COMPLETE Driver...if that is even possible. I suck at watching my gauges. I keep tabs on my oil temps just fine. Watching oil pressures during a turn is stupid hard for me to do for whatever reason...
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    I first drove a stick in 1973.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlee1234 View Post
    I think I understand what you are saying, but can you elaborate?
    My unbelievably short response. If you have enough HP, or low enough weight/power ratio, you dont have to drive fast in the corners to set a fast lap time. Beyond the whole fast lap topic things change when youre racing, especially in the competitive classes. For instance, when youre nose to tail the slightest mistake can punish you and sometimes the cars behind you. Or when youre drafting, knowing who to link up with when you have more than 1 option. I dont think drivers will really start to understand or think about that stuff until they get at least 1 season of racing done.
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    What about after a season of iRacing???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure EvoIX View Post
    Track awareness, car control, consistency, ability to not destroy tires, brakes, shocks, etc..., ability to recognize and anticipate faster cars so neither of you lose time, protect the car, knows the line, knows how to position the car for a pass, is mentally focused, is physically fit, thinks the long game and can think on his feet, able to drive with issues, able to communicate handling characteristics to help engineer or whoever setup the car, able to troubleshoot issues and relay messages to the team while driving, able to understand car dynamics and physics, understands important of telemetry and how to properly utilize it, able to win, nurse a hurt car, manage car issues...etc lists goes on and on and on for pages and pages.

    That is called a perfect and complete driver. You can be fast for that 2min for 1 lap with no traffic, but can you do a double stint in the heat in a race with out of class cars and similarly setup/power cars, crank out consistent laps every lap, not make mistakes...and not lose time getting passed or passing, etc and win.

    one of the few people i personally know who meets most (if not all) of these traits is Emilio.
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    I dont think drivers will really start to understand or think about that stuff until they get at least 1 season of racing done.

    As a driver entering the second half of my protracted rookie season, I second this notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    It appears the driver had no idea how control a slide.
    Or use an adverb.

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    ^ I laugh only because I type as badly as richard

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