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    Default is cool suit a safety issue in fire ?

    I've heard this a few times. Some of big manufacturer is claiming cool suit is a hazard in a fire, steam ....

    wonder if this is true ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    I've heard this a few times. Some of big manufacturer is claiming cool suit is a hazard in a fire, steam ....

    wonder if this is true ?
    I suppose it could be but I think that's a bit blown out of proportion... By the time being burned by steam became an issue you probably have a lot worse things to be worried about... Like a Simpson Helmet guy told me a few years ago when I asked about their nylon helmet strap vs a Kevlar helmet strap. His response was basically if a Kevlar helmet strap comes into play you have much worse problems than what type of material is holding your helmet on your head

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    See this. My take on this principle is that steam transfers the thermal energy to your skin much faster than if you were to just be near a heat source of equal temperature. In practical terms, that means you receive greater burns from a car full of steam in the time it takes you to exit the car, than if it was just a fire without steam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDSUsnowboards View Post
    See this. My take on this principle is that steam transfers the thermal energy to your skin much faster than if you were to just be near a heat source of equal temperature. In practical terms, that means you receive greater burns from a car full of steam in the time it takes you to exit the car, than if it was just a fire without steam.
    True but the cool suit would have to be compromised to become steam and like I said if there's something slicing up your cool suit or the flames have penetrated your fire suit enough to be melting the silicone lines allowing water to escape you got worse problems...

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    Also, if the tubing melts, doesn't it stick to the skin? I've seen guys wear the shirts inside out for greater cooling effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    Also, if the tubing melts, doesn't it stick to the skin? I've seen guys wear the shirts inside out for greater cooling effect.
    As long as there's water in the tube it won't melt at least not at my temp you're going to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    Also, if the tubing melts, doesn't it stick to the skin? I've seen guys wear the shirts inside out for greater cooling effect.
    Well you're supposed to wear a layer of nomex under the cool suit OR some of the new suits are nomex themselves.. i believe most manufacturers are using silicone hose in the suits themselves

    Silicone itself doesn't really melt as much as just char up when exposed to flame... (at least every time I've tried to light it on fire...lol)

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    Even with coolshirt you sweat. Sweat will steam you. The water in hoses just adds to what is already there. Cotton burns. Traqgear makes the coolshirt out of nomex or carbon x. Google them. Carbon x has more insulation than nomex and wicks sweat from the body and reduces steam burns. It is the carbonx claim to fame. But we walk around the paddock with sun shinning. I still like nomex because you can get it white or light colors. Carbon x is black. It is hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    As long as there's water in the tube it won't melt at least not at my temp you're going to survive.
    This.

    Take a plastic or styrofoam cup, fill it half way with water, place in an open fire. The plastic will melt around the water but not burn away until the water is gone.
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