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    what does trackhq think? who knows if it will happen or not but based on the performance of the new car I can only hope to see this on the road some day. Now if only they could have put this kind of styling effort into the stingray...

    Here's Chevy's Plan For The Mid-Engined 2017 'Corvette Zora'



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    Why?

    This makes no sense to me. The C5 worked, the C6 was even better and the C7 is fully world class. I can think of a dozen other projects unrelated to the Corvette program that GM would be better off spending it's money on. If they want to spend money on Vettes, bring us our damn Club Sport which should be a road legal version of a C7R.
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    on that note, I still thing the rendering above looks nice

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    Good idea. This tells me that the Corvette engineers are looking forward and not getting stuck in a rut with the traditional front-engine, RWD configuration. More power to them. This should be a world class super car.

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    Maybe it's a production version and evolution of the Corvette daytona prototype.

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    Ugly. But they have the right idea. A mid engine corvette is a damn good idea, but it will probably sell like piss water because muh tradition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b3d3g1 View Post
    Maybe it's a production version and evolution of the Corvette daytona prototype.
    I certainly hope not. The DP Corvette is about as sophisticated as a hammer with a fiberglass handle.
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    See how much better the C7 looks with ROUND tail-lights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    See how much better the C7 looks with ROUND tail-lights?
    Mark this day on your calendars... I agree with Richard.

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    Coolest thing about mid engine is you can build a center seat race car out of it. Forget the C7 clubsport I'll take a C8 midengined clubsport. Mix the C8 in with the Ferrari challenge of 2017 and make a Corvette Ferrari challenge race series and bring in some real interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    I certainly hope not. The DP Corvette is about as sophisticated as a hammer with a fiberglass handle.
    That's funny, I'm gonna have to remember that one!

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    Why am I thinking Koenigsegg with a GT-R rear end?
    If nothing happens and there is no one around why did it not happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_Se7en View Post
    Why am I thinking Koenigsegg with a GT-R rear end?
    Have you ever seen the way the guys at Top Gear spell "Koenigsegg"?
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    Because the C5-7 work as well as they do, I don't see a reason to go with a mid engine. Also, I don't know if this is a trait of all mid engine cars, but when I got a ride in a Ford GT, it tended to "lurch" when you lifted off the gas abruptly.

    It's kind of hard to explain, but front drive cars do it, too. I think there's something to having the engine up front, a driveshaft and a rear trans that spreads the loads throughout the chassis more evenly so when you lift quickly, it doesn't lurch.

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    ^^^ Lurch . . . Not your generation, Beavis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    Because the C5-7 work as well as they do, I don't see a reason to go with a mid engine. Also, I don't know if this is a trait of all mid engine cars, but when I got a ride in a Ford GT, it tended to "lurch" when you lifted off the gas abruptly.

    It's kind of hard to explain, but front drive cars do it, too. I think there's something to having the engine up front, a driveshaft and a rear trans that spreads the loads throughout the chassis more evenly so when you lift quickly, it doesn't lurch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    ^^^ Lurch . . . Not your generation, Beavis.
    I saw it in syndication.

    The lurching occurred most notably during straight-line braking. Lift and the whole car, well, lurched. It's kind of hard to explain. Maybe solid engine and trans mounts would help, but those are usually too harsh in street car, even a performance car like a Ford GT.

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    I'm glad they are making this. I think the rest of the world could take some lessons from Chevy right now. Reasonably light, great power, great handling, manual option, RWD and plenty of tire. Simple formula works well for me. Apply it to a mid engine flagship sports car. I bet it will be awesome. I don't want complicated energy recovery AWD systems on a super car. I'm all for that technology and innovation for day to day cars but a super car isn't practical by any means. I personally don't care if my $500k car gets 11mpg vs 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    Because the C5-7 work as well as they do, I don't see a reason to go with a mid engine. Also, I don't know if this is a trait of all mid engine cars, but when I got a ride in a Ford GT, it tended to "lurch" when you lifted off the gas abruptly.

    It's kind of hard to explain, but front drive cars do it, too. I think there's something to having the engine up front, a driveshaft and a rear trans that spreads the loads throughout the chassis more evenly so when you lift quickly, it doesn't lurch.
    But they are probably saving 80lbs off the driveline placing the engine and tranny next to eachother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ1 View Post

    But they are probably saving 80lbs off the driveline placing the engine and tranny next to eachother.
    I have lifted that section of the car. You would be surprised how light the whole torque tube assembly is. I bet it only weighs 30 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    I have lifted that section of the car. You would be surprised how light the whole torque tube assembly is. I bet it only weighs 30 pounds.
    You also got: 2 xtra bell housings, the tunnel constructed in the chassis to accommodate the torque tub and exhaust, and the exhaust tubing down the whole length of the car. A mid engine layout gives some of that lost weight back with the extra plumbing from running coolant and fluids to the front, where the airflow is.
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