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Thread: Billy looks to be getting it rough from IMSA...

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    Default Billy looks to be getting it rough from IMSA...

    IMSA is banning Platinum drivers from the CTSCC.

    Hopefully this doesn't happen. Or we can start a protest movement that involves....well... let's just say lube, Sriracha, and sand would be involved.

    I can't go into more detail than that because we know the first rule of Sriracha Club....

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    I guess I don't understand the driver grading system. What other precious metal levels are allowed?

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    Jeeez . . . .

    A very questionable perspective. Black flag the best drivers to attract more teams? What about fan base and sponsorships? And it seems like budgets may be more of a hurdle than driver excellence.

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    It is a harsh Financial reality. It could become just like Lamborghini Super Trofeo or Ferrari challenge. All pay drivers because those are the only people who can afford it. No team can gain enough sponsors to actually pay for talented drivers. To me that's a failure on the part of the race organization to provide a product that we are interested enough to watch and therefore create the demographics to attract sponsors.
    Iris bicycles as an amateur and as a fan of professional bicycle racing it phases similar hurdles. It's completely mismanaged conflict of interest. Pro football is probably the best model for everyone being well-paid and the business moedl being sustainable. I have read recently then even NASCAR is experiencing dwindling fan base and sponsor dollars.
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    Trying to make lemonade here, maybe the platinum rating will help him secure a ride in a different series?
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    More and more, it seems like it's harder and harder to be a paid driver, and that pursuing a career as a driver is like pursuing a career in outside sales.

    The hot ticket now seems to be a team owner. Those are the pros in pro racing.

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    This is kinda echoing what's going on in the parent company-NASCAR's reducing the amount of races the Sprint Cup guys can do in the Xfinity Series as well, and they're going the way of eliminating those guys completely. Did this action become a mandate from the top? Me thinks so.

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    He is the winningest driver in the history of the series isn't he? It does seem odd to call a pro driver too good for a series that allows pros. On the other hand that particular class is on the verge on non-existence, I think they typically had about 7 cars start events. ST was where the action was this last season. Maybe other teams are saying they don't want to bother to compete against Billy and his team. If the GS class it to survive they need to do what will bring cars back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    More and more, it seems like it's harder and harder to be a paid driver, and that pursuing a career as a driver is like pursuing a career in outside sales.

    The hot ticket now seems to be a team owner. Those are the pros in pro racing.
    LOL- I'm never going to feel sorry for a paid driver..... And I'm in outside sales
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    It is a harsh Financial reality. It could become just like Lamborghini Super Trofeo or Ferrari challenge. All pay drivers because those are the only people who can afford it. No team can gain enough sponsors to actually pay for talented drivers. To me that's a failure on the part of the race organization to provide a product that we are interested enough to watch and therefore create the demographics to attract sponsors.
    Iris bicycles as an amateur and as a fan of professional bicycle racing it phases similar hurdles. It's completely mismanaged conflict of interest. Pro football is probably the best model for everyone being well-paid and the business moedl being sustainable. I have read recently then even NASCAR is experiencing dwindling fan base and sponsor dollars.
    Still, it does seem that if any teams actually pay their its driver, having these few guys in the grid could enhance the credibility of everyone.

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    I'm not arguing for or against pro drivers. Just making the observation that motorpsorts in general, have always had trouble paying the bills. First to go is the drivers salary.

    With few exceptions the real driving legends of the sport, our heroes are those that were paid to drive whether by personal sponsor or team.
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    I think it's the creative destruction of capitalism at work. Because of so many other sports that compete for a fan base, many with cheaper operating costs, the business model of professional racing has evolved. As Emilio points out, the first expense to be trimmed is the driver's salary, especially when a team owner can find another driver who will pay for the seat.

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    Sad. . . but depressingly true.

    Well that does always leave figure skating as a low overhead sport.

    And, come to think about it, a lot of Miata guys could be pretty interested.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Caboose View Post
    Sad. . . but depressingly true.

    Well that does always leave figure skating as a low overhead sport.

    And, come to think about it, a lot of Miata guys could be pretty interested.

    Hey now. I haven't donned the spangled pink singlet in months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Caboose View Post

    Well that does always leave figure skating as a low overhead sport.

    Actually, for girls ice skating it the most expensive form of competition with the exception of equestrian. Ask me how I know....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    Actually, for girls ice skating it the most expensive form of competition with the exception of equestrian. Ask me how I know....
    My wife used to design and sew ice skating and ice dancing costumes... Between the costumes and the lessons, the travel it's crazy how much money is spent on that sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    Actually, for girls ice skating it the most expensive form of competition with the exception of equestrian. Ask me how I know....
    Pretty sure Oli just said he was a girls ice dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Hey now. I haven't donned the spangled pink singlet in months.
    That is a vision which shall haunt me for the rest of my days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Hey now. I haven't donned the spangled pink singlet in months.
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    Oli has been secretly filming a new reality TV show. It is called Vikings on Ice.

    More details to follow......
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