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    This e-mail thread is kind of humorous. Start from the bottom of the thread as I hook this Scammer on the line and play with him. Read from the bottom of this first post and up from there to follow the discussion.

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    Hi Austin:

    OK, I put together a complete package for you including the use of five races cars for the 100 laps. Lodging is for five people, one room each, for two nights and the beautiful Uranahole Hilton in downtown Buttonwillow.

    The cost is USD $5,125 each or a total of USD $25,625 each. We take cash, checks, VISA, Mastercard and American Express.
    For an additional $500 per person we can provide a personalized TAGanass slot car for your guests to ride around in for the day.
    Your fee for the instructor is included with this price and I have secured the very prestigious Max I. Canbich if you provide me the dates of your visit.
    Flagging and safety services from Dontsy Flags, Inc. are included, too.

    Let me know how I can help further.


    Oli


    From: Austin Hills [mailto:austinhills94@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:43 PM
    To: Oli
    Subject: Total cost needed

    Thanks for your Response.Yes i am interested in Buttonwillow Raceway ,We are interested each person to drive 100 laps per day.Also want to race on your slot car track .I will be waiting or your reply.then also get us the grand total for 2days track for

    5peopl.

    Full Event
    Track Rental -
    Instructors -
    Safety Team -
    Flaggers -
    Tax -
    Total -

    I am waiting to hear from you soon.

    Austine

    --- On Wed, 11/30/11, Oli wrote:

    From: Oli
    Subject: Re: Booking....
    To: "<austinhills94@yahoo.com>" <austinhills94@yahoo.com>
    Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 10:48 AM
    Hi Austin:

    Thank you for writing. Which track are you interested in?
    Buttonwillow Raceway or one of the other courses?

    Do you need to rent race cars, too?

    How did you hear of me and come to write to
    me?


    Thanks,

    Oli


    Sent from my iPhone

    On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:36 AM, "Mr Austin Hills" <austinhills94@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I am Austin Hills from Greece,i and a group of four are coming to your facility for a short vacation.we are interested in your track racing services,we would like to experience more of the game and we would like an instructor for minimum of 3days,except we have change of plans, i understand that you don't have lodgings,but you can make bookings for my group at the hotel closest to your establishment,we would like to have 5 single rooms. please send me your course details,and your availability and any other additional cost that i may not be aware of. I also would like to know if visa card or MasterCard as mode of payment.
    >
    > Please confirm availability of my date,my arrival date would be May 20th till 22th 2012. I expect to hear from you as soon as possible.You can email in My private box:austinhills94@yahoo.com
    >
    > Regards
    > Austin Hills
    >
    >
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    Here is the second episode. Again, read from the bottom up:

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    Your arrangement is fine. We do this sort of service frequently. We can cover your lodging, too, as we can get you a discount with the local hotel. Normally the hotel cost is $250 per night, but our arrangement is for only $199.

    Your company full name/address
    Buttonwillow Crack Racers
    969 Jeffrey Dahmer Lane
    Buttonwillow, CA 92666

    Name of the Manager/Owner
    Moe Lester, Head Coach/Owner of Buttonwillow Raceway
    Company telephone and fax numbers
    (661) 968-3425 phone
    (661) 968-7825 Fax


    From: Austin Hills [mailto:austinhills94@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:48 PM
    To: Oli
    Subject: PAYMENT DETAILS

    Dear Oli,

    Note All This instruction has been given by My sponsor.He want you to go through his instruction let us know in time because without our translator arrangements of flight tickets ,Logistics and traveling documents for our race track .This trip can not be successful.Why this instruction because we are at the oil rig.

    I wish to thank you so much for your information and confirming the actual amount needed to secure the charter of your race track .I am so sorry for my late response but just like i earlier informed you, our research trip is financed by a sponsor and i have already informed him of the cost and payments.He will be forwarding his cred it card details to you on trust to charge $8,625 as the Part payment for the race track services.

    We have also made arrangement with a translator that will guide the group for better
    communication during their entire 1 week stay in your country, and will also handle the logistics arrangement for the group.


    Therefore, as soon as you receive the credit card details, you should process for your payment of $8,625 and $10,000 you will send to the group language translator in order to secure her services too.

    The reason for asking you to process for your payment and that of the translator is because our sponsor has instructed to charter your race track and also pay the translator from the credit card but unfortunately the translator does not have a credit card charging facility and the sponsor want only the most trusted company or individual as confirmed by me to handle the charging operation of his credit card to ensure the secure it y of the credit card details. In view of that, i prefer only you to handle the processing of the credit card due to my trust on you and your company.


    You will be processing the total of $18,625 plus 4% processing fee from his credit card i.e ($8,625 for the charter + $10,000 for the translator).

    Confirm my information so that i can inform the sponsor to forward all his credit card details immediately for the charging operation/payment.

    Finally,confirm this arrangement and provide me with your..

    (1) Your company full name/address

    (2) Name of the Manager/Owner

    (3) company telephone and fax numbers


    N.B: all charges from the card will be charged in my account.and the balance of $17,000 will be made before arrival or 1 week before arrival

    Kindly confirm this and get back to me


    Regards,
    Mr Austin Hills


    --- On Thu, 12/1/11, Oli wrote:

    From: Oli
    Subject: RE: Total cost needed
    To: "'Austin Hills'" <austinhills94@yahoo.com>
    Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 12:28 PM
    Hi Austin:

    OK, I put together a complete package for you including the use of five races cars for the 100 laps. Lodging is for five people, one room each, for two nights and the beautiful Uranahole Hilton in downtown Buttonwillow.

    The cost is USD $5,125 each or a total of USD $25,625 each. We take cash, checks, VISA, Mastercard and American Express.
    For an additional $500 per person we can provide a personalized TAGanass slot car for your guests to ride around in for the day.
    Your fee for the instructor is included with this price and I have secured the very prestigious Max I. Canbich if you provide me the dates of your visit.
    Flagging and safety services from Dontsy Flags, Inc. are included, too.

    Let me know how I can help further.


    Oli


    From: Austin Hills [mailto:austinhills94@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:43 PM
    To: Oli
    Subject: Total cost needed

    Thanks for your Response.Yes i am interested in Buttonwillow Raceway ,We are interested each person to drive 100 laps per day.Also want to race on your slot car track .I will be waiting or your reply.then also get us the grand total for 2days track for

    5peopl.

    Full Event
    Track Rental -
    Instructors -
    Safety Team -
    Flaggers -
    Tax -
    Total -

    I am waiting to hear from you soon.

    Austine

    --- On Wed, 11/30/11, Oli wrote:

    From: Oli Subject: Re: Booking....
    To: "<austinhills94@yahoo.com>" <austinhills94@yahoo.com>
    Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 10:48 AM
    Hi Austin:

    Thank you for writing. Which track are you interested in?
    Buttonwillow Raceway or one of the other courses?

    Do you need to rent race cars, too?

    How did you hear of me and come to write to
    me?


    Thanks,

    Oli


    Sent from my iPhone

    On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:36 AM, "Mr Austin Hills" <austinhills94@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I am Austin Hills from Greece,i and a group of four are coming to your facility for a short vacation.we are interested in your track racing services,we would like to experience more of the game and we would like an instructor for minimum of 3days,except we have change of plans, i understand that you don't have lodgings,but you can make bookings for my group at the hotel closest to your establishment,we would like to have 5 single rooms. please send me your course details,and your availability and any other additional cost that i may not be aware of. I also would like to know if visa card or MasterCard as mode of payment.
    >
    > Please confirm availability of my date,my arrival date would be May 20th till 22th 2012. I expect to hear from you as soon as possible.You can email in My private box:austinhills94@yahoo.com
    >
    > Regards
    > Austin Hills
    >
    >
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    The third episode. I have since been trying to get me more information that is tangible so I can forward it to the appropriate credit card company, but no luck yet. Any idead on how to play with this guy some more?

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    I am here for only about 90 more minutes. I must then depart for a meeting.

    I will be back in tomorrow very early, but in meetings for most of the day.


    Sincerely,

    Oli


    From: Austin Hills [mailto:austinhills94@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:14 PM
    To: Oli
    Subject: please reply asap

    Dear Moe Lester and Oli Thordarson,

    Good day and How are you doing today?
    Let me know if you are at work now and if you will charge $8,625 USD for your service deposit and $10,000 USD for guests Translator/Logistic expenses from my sponsors credit card today.
    Once you received the money charged from my sponsors credit card in your bank account, I want you to keep $8,625 USD for your service deposit and transfer the $10,000 USD to the Translator agent in North Carolina by wire transfer.
    The cost of the wire transfer should be deducted from the total money you are transferring to this agent. It usually cost between $15 to $30.
    I shall provide you with the Translator agent bank account details after processing the payment.
    Expecting to hear from you today.

    Regards,
    Mr Austin Hills
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    I think the guy is legit. Take his money . . .
    The deposed former Sheriff of trackHQ . . .

    2006 Porsche 997 Carerra Coupe 6-MT - daily driver
    1992 Honda (Acura) NSX 5-MT - classic investment I couldn't resist and occasionally drive
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    2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 6-MT - when I need a backseat, 4-doors, or a real trunk, and still want to haul ass . . .

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    What would you think of this same situation if the emails were in perfect English, and you talked to the guy several times over the phone and everything seemed legit? Then somehow he drops the forwarding of the funds thing on you.

    If someone perfected this scam rather than just sending crappy emails, it's be a lot more dangerous. Guess the shotgun approach is better for them

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    The question should be who is scamming who at this point, "Moe Lester" that is too funny. At least you are not dealing with someone in a Nigerian cyber den, maybe you are dealing with Astraist.
    If nothing happens and there is no one around why did it not happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_Se7en View Post
    The question should be who is scamming who at this point, "Moe Lester" that is too funny. At least you are not dealing with someone in a Nigerian cyber den, maybe you are dealing with Astraist.
    I can almost guarantee this is the Nigerian or Liberian crime rings.

    1. Who has ever heard of a guy from Greece name Austin Hills. That sounds just like one of the names those guys in Nigeria make up.

    2. Greeks don't work on oil rigs, Nigerians and Liberians do.



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    Maybe you need to hand him off to your accountant, Stewart Pidass, and work him that way.

    Steve

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    So now it's Greece rather than Nigeria. And the scam is for you to pay a "translator" by credit card rather than the scammer sending you a "cashier's check" for far more than the purchase price ("My secretary made a mistake.") and having you refund the difference by check.

    You should forward it to your attorney, Phil McCracken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olitho View Post
    I can almost guarantee this is the Nigerian or Liberian crime rings.

    1. Who has ever heard of a guy from Greece name Austin Hills. That sounds just like one of the names those guys in Nigeria make up.

    2. Greeks don't work on oil rigs, Nigerians and Liberians do.



    Oli
    OK the Astraist joke didn't fly my bad. Whoever wrote it has better grammar skills than what I have typically seen coming out of Africa, maybe the author has gone to school in the west, or maybe it's a cut and paste script. It could be the person is Russian I have see more scamming coming from that part of the world lately but the level of sophistication in their scamms are a lot higher.

    Interesting to see how far this is going to go.
    If nothing happens and there is no one around why did it not happen?

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    Oli is anything but a dummy, but the scam still sucks and comes across poorly and I doubt most would fall for it.

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