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    Default Best story of the year : VW / Audi TDI tricks emission test

    This must be funniest automotive story of the year

    VW cheats on diesel emission test !!

    1. 09-15 Diesel detects OBD2 port access. If car accelerates and decelerates without steering input, it then loads a "clean emission" map. That's just brilliant

    2. VW / Audi are the only ones (I. This time period) that's able to have diesels without using urea. Now we know why

    http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/cert/docume...a-09-18-15.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    This must be one of funniest automotive story of the year

    VW cheats on diesel emission test !!

    1. 09-15 Diesel detects OBD2 port access. If car accelerates and decelerates without steering input, it then loads a "clean emission" map. That's just brilliant

    2. VW a/ Audi are the only ones (I. This time period) that's able to have diesels without using urea. Now we know why

    http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/cert/docume...a-09-18-15.pdf
    There's some poor bastard out there with a bluetooth obd2 dongle hooked up to his diesel and is pulling his hair out on the dyno trying to figure out where his horses went!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    There's some poor bastard out there with a bluetooth obd2 dongle hooked up to his diesel and is pulling his hair out on the dyno trying to figure out where his horses went!
    Say.... are diesels legal for PTE?
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    CEO is sorry. Yeah, sorry that they got caught and have to possibly pay up to 15Billion in fines.

    Volkswagen CEO apologizes, orders external probe on emissions allegations
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    Well my ram 2500 no urea either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Say.... are diesels legal for PTE?
    the employee responsible must of been working for Audi LeMan team since 2010 after his/her job well done in 2009. Audi won LeMan from 2010-2014 (Peugeot won in 2009), Coincidence ? I think not !!
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    So does this make my 2014 Passat TDI worth more or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craZee View Post
    So does this make my 2014 Passat TDI worth more or less?

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    I guess you will get some money back at some point, or they will offer you to buy it back. But the feeling that "someone" tricked you into buying a car that is not what it was advertised stays for a while
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    Its worth more right?

    It makes better power and better mileage, and passes the test... and I doubt the emissions equipment will ever clog/wear-out. this s the solution to the how to pass smog thing... anyone want to bet there are some gas cars out there doing something similar? Who is making the best power/millage?
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    Hey, the cars pass the smog test. I don't believe the smog test requires anyone to turn the steering wheel. I'd fight it if they meet the letter of the law regarding test requirements. Don't all racer cheat whenever they can?

    They will run clean on the street as long as you go in a straight line.
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    I have a 13 Golf TDi and everyone in my family loves that car. I assume there will be a recall and they will re-program them to be emission friendly all the time now and the power and efficiency will drop. And I also assume CA won't issue a new registration sticker without proof of the recall being performed on your car. This sucks! I wonder if I can get an aftermarket tuner to put it back after the recall...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redtopz View Post
    I have a 13 Golf TDi and everyone in my family loves that car. I assume there will be a recall and they will re-program them to be emission friendly all the time now and the power and efficiency will drop. And I also assume CA won't issue a new registration sticker without proof of the recall being performed on your car. This sucks! I wonder if I can get an aftermarket tuner to put it back after the recall...
    There will be a class action. If had a VW, I'd be first in line to get my name on that suit if my car was forced to operate at less power and efficiency. VW might have bitten more than they can chew with this decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaysman View Post
    They will run clean on the street as long as you go in a straight line.
    Only if a dongle is attached to the OBD2 port. Good luck with that argument, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtopz View Post
    I have a 13 Golf TDi and everyone in my family loves that car. I assume there will be a recall and they will re-program them to be emission friendly all the time now and the power and efficiency will drop. And I also assume CA won't issue a new registration sticker without proof of the recall being performed on your car. This sucks! I wonder if I can get an aftermarket tuner to put it back after the recall...
    Starting looking for a spare engine computer from a wrecked car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_Se7en View Post
    Starting looking for a spare engine computer from a wrecked car.
    smart !! those ECU will be worth a lot of money later..
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    Wondering how this will work with VW negotiating to buy RB F1 as well as their WEC program.

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    The crazy thing is that I brag to everyone how clean my TDI burns/runs. Zero starting issues, zero smoke, zero soot on the rear bumper, zero black on the exhaust tip.

    To find out that my car is primarily responsible for the heat wave we have been having this summer, is maddening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craZee View Post
    The crazy thing is that I brag to everyone how clean my TDI burns/runs. Zero starting issues, zero smoke, zero soot on the rear bumper, zero black on the exhaust tip.

    To find out that my car is primarily responsible for the heat wave we have been having this summer, is maddening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_Se7en View Post
    Starting looking for a spare engine computer from a wrecked car.
    I don't think it's that simple anymore. I'm guessing only a dealer will be able to pair a new stock ECU to a car because of the immobilizer.
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