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    Just watching racing today on SPEED - what's the point of all these series? Seems like there is enormous crossover and that the series are just creating dilution among themselves.

    Is there some reason that they aren't interested in grouping together and creating an FIA GT-style series? Has it ever been discussed or proposed, ala CART vs Indycar? I know nothing about the back story or economics. Could be awesome.

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    Politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadh View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadh View Post
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    Decoded: money

    Specifically, who earns what and now much.

    SCCA has run their pro semi-endurance race series for late model production cars in one form or another for what 45 years now? It's their flagship product and I'm guessing they are in no hurry to share it. Other series have come and gone, SCCA chugs along.
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    I'd love to have some insight into the finances of these organizations. I have a hard time thinking any of them are performing well.

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    Grand Am GT, GS and ST classes seem to be pretty strong so far this year. DP doesn't seem particularly strong but I've only been watching for a couple of years.

    Aren't Grand Am and World Challenge both including B-Spec races during their race weekends?
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    And isn't Grand-AM owned by the NASCAR family?

    I think WC has come back after a few years of lackluster grids. I watched a recent race and was impressed by the participation levels. My last exposure was when it was the "Acura/Mazda" Challenge.

    ALMS, honestly, is letting me down.

    The series I am most excited about is Continental Sports Car Challenge. I counted 9 distinct models in ST and I think 7 in GS. To me, health of a racing series comes down to diversity of participation among manufacturers and teams. I know that Grand-AM has a hand in making things equal through allowances depending on car strengths and weaknesses, but it's fun to watch.

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    Continental Tire Sports Car challenge, is the "blue chip" sports car racing product and has been since the 80s when it was Firehawk. Best move Grand-Am made was purchasing it. I was at NJMP on Saturday, and so were a good number of other folks, great crowd for the "Conti Day". People are more excited about it, folks drive those cars and hence manufacturers are excited about it.

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    Conti Challenge is my favorite series too. I wish they would air it live or at least the same weekend it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrodmex View Post
    And isn't Grand-AM owned by the NASCAR family?

    I think WC has come back after a few years of lackluster grids. I watched a recent race and was impressed by the participation levels. My last exposure was when it was the "Acura/Mazda" Challenge.

    ALMS, honestly, is letting me down.

    The series I am most excited about is Continental Sports Car Challenge. I counted 9 distinct models in ST and I think 7 in GS. To me, health of a racing series comes down to diversity of participation among manufacturers and teams. I know that Grand-AM has a hand in making things equal through allowances depending on car strengths and weaknesses, but it's fun to watch.

    Yes, the France family owns Grand Am. Daytona Prototypes are probably my favorite race cars. It would be nice to see more of them on the grids.

    I have to admit I'm kind of surprised at size of the grids given the Frances' marketing capabilities.

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