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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    I disagree with all of you about the E30 M3. It's not a fast car by modern standards. It's just a tarted up E30. I don't think it will ever be worth much more than it is now.
    Who ever said performance is necessary in order for it to be considered a classic? How about the winningest touring car of the era, and a true homologation special?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    I disagree with all of you about the E30 M3. It's not a fast car by modern standards. It's just a tarted up E30. I don't think it will ever be worth much more than it is now.
    Somebody dosn't know his BMWs...

    -it's the original "///M" Motorsports car, a homoligation-special, and a badass little 200hp saloon car.

    It's not a fast car by modern standards. Not too many cars from the 80s-90s are - in stock from. The infamous 959 is even slow by current entry-level supercar standards.

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    My list no particular order in value:

    1. 1998 Toyota Supra MKIV TT 6-Speed Manual (I like the 95 SE 5-Speed manual ones, but they are overeshadowed by the TT).

    2. Mercedes 190E 2.3 16-Valve

    3. BMW M3 E30

    4. Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS

    5. 1999 C5 FRC (okay, well overshadow by Z06)

    6. GNX

    7. Integra Type R

    8. Cobra R

    9. Miata R Package

    10. FD RX-7
    2012 Toyota Sienna LE 2.7L 6AT (w/Convience Package + Preferred Package)
    2000 Ford Fucus ZX3 5MT (I want my MPG! American Style.)
    1994 Toyota Supra 5MT (SZ-R Project Status: Retired, 2012 Speed Ventures Time Trial CC9 Champion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Somebody dosn't know his BMWs...

    -it's the original "///M" Motorsports car, a homoligation-special, and a badass little 200hp saloon car.
    I know my BMWs. I bought 4 new BMWs between 1988 and 1995. A 1988 528e, 1990 535i, 1992 325 is, and 1995 M3 (E36). I drove the M3 for 8 years and 90,000 miles on the street before trading it in on a 2003 Nissan 350Z Track model. The M3 was a great car. But it will never be worth much. Same goes for the E30 M3. Not as good a car as the E36, even if it is rarer.
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    1992 Honda (Acura) NSX 5-MT - classic investment I couldn't resist and occasionally drive
    2004 Honda S2000 AP2 6-MT - track day car
    2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 6-MT - when I need a backseat, 4-doors, or a real trunk, and still want to haul ass . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    I know my BMWs. I bought 4 new BMWs between 1988 and 1995. A 1988 528e, 1990 535i, 1992 325 is, and 1995 M3 (E36). I drove the M3 for 8 years and 90,000 miles on the street before trading it in on a 2003 Nissan 350Z Track model. The M3 was a great car. But it will never be worth much. Same goes for the E30 M3. Not as good a car as the E36, even if it is rarer.
    Then you know we got the lame US-spec motors, that were just stroked 325-328 motors to become a 3.0L then 3.2L Europe got the awesome 321hp ITB motors. So yes the US-spec E36 was nothing special (I have one too) but the E30 has a much richer heritage/creation than the 36.

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    Not sure how anyone could say the E30 M3s will never be a collector car. The nice ones are getting to be that way already. Yes you can still buy beaten and worn ones for a cheap price. but the well cared for and documented cars are going up in price. Even during this economy. Even the ones with US spec engines in them. I've always thought they were an awesome drivers car. Yes, slow by today's standards, but I think most people here know that faster doesn't mean fun"ner".

    along the lines of the E30 M3, I'd probably add its mercedes homologation rival, the 190E 2.5 16v.

    so my start to a list would be:
    E30 M3
    190E 2.5 16v
    Supra Mk4 turbo
    FD RX7
    Datsun 510
    Datsun 280z
    CRX si
    NSX
    Integra type r
    a miata will never be a collector, but I've had 5, what's one more?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    Then you know we got the lame US-spec motors, that were just stroked 325-328 motors to become a 3.0L then 3.2L Europe got the awesome 321hp ITB motors.
    Yes, obviously. But you can't buy one here. And I am always surprised how slow E30 M3s are whenever I see one on the track. There will always be rich waxers who will pay a lot for rare, shiny car. Look at all the idiots at Barret Jackson, and what they will pay for a nice muscle car.

    But this site is about driving, not investment.
    The deposed former Sheriff of trackHQ . . .

    2006 Porsche 997 Carerra Coupe 6-MT - daily driver
    1992 Honda (Acura) NSX 5-MT - classic investment I couldn't resist and occasionally drive
    2004 Honda S2000 AP2 6-MT - track day car
    2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 6-MT - when I need a backseat, 4-doors, or a real trunk, and still want to haul ass . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    Look at all the idiots at Barret Jackson, and what they will pay for a nice muscle car.
    but they are rich idiots.

    most 80s and early 90s cars are slow (I should say 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, even 60s muscle cars are slow 1/4 mile compare to today's), but that don't make it less collectible. it only has to be fast for its time era.

    we live in the best automotive times today, in terms of speed.
    Supermiata S1, SuperMiata S2, Supermiata S3
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    17 GT350 !!
    08 M3 - Carmax warranty !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    we live in the best automotive times today, in terms of speed.
    I agree with that. The best cars ever are made today. I don't buy the "classic car" nonsense anymore. They are just old cars.

    I owned a 1962 Austin Healey 3000 Mk II, a 1967 Fiat Dino 206 Spyder, and a 1975 Mercedes Benz 450 SLC. They were just old cars that required lots of repairs. I did make money on the Dino, but not on the other two.
    The deposed former Sheriff of trackHQ . . .

    2006 Porsche 997 Carerra Coupe 6-MT - daily driver
    1992 Honda (Acura) NSX 5-MT - classic investment I couldn't resist and occasionally drive
    2004 Honda S2000 AP2 6-MT - track day car
    2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 6-MT - when I need a backseat, 4-doors, or a real trunk, and still want to haul ass . . .

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    i want a bone stock 1994 civic vx hatchback.

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    Unfortunately, the appreciation factor probably does not apply to this car, but I found it great when I owned one. Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo ('89 - 96). I had a '93, and it was a lot of fun. Handled decently for a heavy car and had a nice amount of power. Maintenance nightmare though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaBlueS2k View Post
    Unfortunately, the appreciation factor probably does not apply to this car, but I found it great when I owned one. Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo ('89 - 96). I had a '93, and it was a lot of fun. Handled decently for a heavy car and had a nice amount of power. Maintenance nightmare though.
    This was my first car as well. I agree with pretty much everything stated above, ESPECIALLY the maintenance part =P
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    1. FD RX7 R1. Preferably yellow.
    2. 85 CRXsi.The car that opened everyone's eyes to fwd, 2nd year fuel injected OR 84 or 89 CRX HF. Crazy 55mpg
    3. 88 323GTX. Won't be worth anything but I had one so it's sentimental value, silly fun to drive
    4. 89 Audi Quattro. Best version. Maybe not <$30k
    5. 99 Miata Sport package, 49 state. Fastest USDM Miata. Not as collectible as 94 R but a much better car to drive.
    6. 91 BMW 318is, M42. "poor mans M3". Fantastic car, dirt cheap.
    7. 91 Nissan Sentra SE-R. 140whp SR20DE, LSD, 2300lbs

    That's all I can think of that fits the requirements

    Car I'd most like to own

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    I've seen fast E30s as well as Porsche 930s at the track. I've also seen many slow ZO6 and GT3 owners.
    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    but they are rich idiots.

    most 80s and early 90s cars are slow (I should say 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, even 60s muscle cars are slow 1/4 mile compare to today's), but that don't make it less collectible. it only has to be fast for its time era.

    we live in the best automotive times today, in terms of speed.
    I would have added the 510 to my list too but the thread didn't say cars from the 70s...

    I hear there is a pretty fast orange 510 running around BW a while back...

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    I had a friend who had a 94R that rear ended someone recently. low mileage, shiny car totalled.
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    its shocks survive in my garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntman View Post
    I hear there is a pretty fast orange 510 running around BW a while back...
    haha. yes. one of the only nissans I was ever afraid of in my miata. Will that car ever be back out? Heck, tell Todd I'll give him fair market value for a 510 for it to get the headache out of his garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tq3z View Post
    This was my first car as well. I agree with pretty much everything stated above, ESPECIALLY the maintenance part =P
    It was one thing after another with that car. I had an especially fun time when out of no where the power steering went way overload and made the wheel super loose.

    The second best day was when I bought the car. The best day was when I sold it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaBlueS2k View Post
    It was one thing after another with that car. I had an especially fun time when out of no where the power steering went way overload and made the wheel super loose.

    The second best day was when I bought the car. The best day was when I sold it.
    I sold mine SUPER fast. I remember getting a TON of calls, and I listed it wayyy over what it was worth as well. In fact it was the fastest car Ive sold, barring my NSX, ever. I would not mind having a mint stock TT300 in my garage as a garage queen. Amazing touring car for what it was. It does have a ton of sentimental value for me as well
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    Evo 8
    Evo 9
    Mini Copper S
    Gtr
    92-95 Civic Hatch Back
    96-2000 Civic Hatch Back
    S2k
    Crx Si
    Rx7 Fd
    Hummer 1

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    Wonder if a mint 240sx would be a collector's car one day.
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