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Thread: 2017 mustang v6, $25k, 300hp, 3500lbs, independent f&r, limited slip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    So you have to get leather to get a manual trans. So much for cheap.
    more reasons why I like the mustang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    more reasons why I like the mustang!
    I agree, the Mustang is the better deal at the bottom of the range but why not go BRZ/Whatever the Toyota version is now called? Sure a hundred less hp but also weighs 700 less and still has enough room for a spare set of wheels/tires.
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    The mustang ecoboost is just as fast as the v6 and you can option it with the performance package with better brakes and suspension. They are going for around $27 locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversprint View Post
    The mustang ecoboost is just as fast as the v6 and you can option it with the performance package with better brakes and suspension. They are going for around $27 locally.
    1k more for the turbo, certainly tuning potential with the turbo. Depends on how the car does with the heat I guess. Probably much safer to just go NA

    The brakes and suspension I figured would be far better to go aftermarket if you were to think about tracking it seriously. I'd hate to spend the extra money just to have the better brakes come up short and have to spend it again. Also the fancy OEM brakes will probably be cheap on ebay from people experiencing that.

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    Since the Ecoboost is a more expensive option, shouldn't it be faster? That really sounds like the performance bargain but as Rob points out, will it be reliable on track in the heat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    I agree, the Mustang is the better deal at the bottom of the range but why not go BRZ/Whatever the Toyota version is now called? Sure a hundred less hp but also weighs 700 less and still has enough room for a spare set of wheels/tires.
    Yeah, BRZ/FRS/86 should be better. I'm always confused that I never see many at the track and don't hear much about people liking them.

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    Really? The brz frs now something86 is the dominant scca T4 chassis and it is cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbillybob View Post
    Really? The brz frs now something86 is the dominant scca T4 chassis and it is cheap.
    Well that doesn't say much, does it? All that tells you is the SCCA screwed up the T4 balance in favor of the BRZ/FRS/86.

    Granted, the car has to not be a complete disaster to finish enough races, but I imagine T4 allows some modding for reliability.
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    I see a few BRZ/FRS cars leave HPDEs in limp mode/CEL popping off. I never looked much into it, but have heard the cars don't like being flogged in stock form like that. Is that incorrect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Well that doesn't say much, does it? All that tells you is the SCCA screwed up the T4 balance in favor of the BRZ/FRS/86.

    Granted, the car has to not be a complete disaster to finish enough races, but I imagine T4 allows some modding for reliability.
    Well why bother? The answer to which car is always miata. You can do anything in those things in just about 6 maybe more scca classes and I am sure just as many nasa classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbillybob View Post
    Well why bother? The answer to which car is always miata. You can do anything in those things in just about 6 maybe more scca classes and I am sure just as many nasa classes.
    S2000 is an amazing track car in stock form. And I think I can count the number of s2000 race cars I've seen on one hand. My point is that you can't use classing as a measure of a car's worth.
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    Both Fat and Burg are correct and not mutually exclusive ideas.
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    Waiting for a dct/auto blip GT350...
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    1k more for the turbo, certainly tuning potential with the turbo. Depends on how the car does with the heat I guess. Probably much safer to just go NA
    Boosted 4 cyl engine on a 3500lbs car cant be really reliable on the track. If a Z06 engine goes in a limp mode after a few laps, how long it will take for a much smaller engine in a heavier car to cut the power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawareca View Post
    Boosted 4 cyl engine on a 3500lbs car cant be really reliable on the track. If a Z06 engine goes in a limp mode after a few laps, how long it will take for a much smaller engine in a heavier car to cut the power?
    Does weight really play into it? It might have to shove for a longer period of time down the straights, but it also spends more time under braking. I figure it would mostly be a question of radiator and oil cooler sizes.

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    The weight plays major role in the engine load, obviously, and this is crucial for small engine/heavy car. With the given 4 cyl mustang on most tracks it will be on full throttle most of the time. This is a lot of heat.

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    A stock Mitsubishi evolution is 3500lbs and does fine at the track with 4 cylinders. It's more reliable than a v6 mustang or even a brz.
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    I just saw the V6 will be dropped from the Mustang for '18, if you want a new one better get moving. Of course that also means that you might want to wait for '18 if you're thinking about the turbo 4, it will be the base engine and might cost less next year and will have an available 10 speed auto if you're into that kind of thing.
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