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    2016 Trackhq F1 Challenge #19, Oct 30th, Mexico !!!
    Year end winner will receive $250 + side pot if you are in it !!!
    Qualifying time is 11am Saturday, Pacific time


    The basics of this game is simple. Pick 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place for each Formula 1 Grand Prix race throughout each year. Points will also be awarded for qualifying and teammate war, sometimes a bonus question.

    # So here are the rules:

    1. Picks must be in by no later than the start time of qualifying. Start times may vary. note some TV broadcasts are not live. I am not responsible for posting correct time for the start of qualifying.

    2. You can make changes to your posts via later posts, but needs to be in before qualifying, see #1. Will use your latest post.

    3. Podium / Qualifying positions are 1st, 2nd and 3rd, as that's the drivers that are physically standing on podium after each race/qualifying (or in interviewing room if no podium). Other positions are determined by immediate TV broadcast before the show is over. Not by FIA after the race is long over.

    4. 3 point - Picked the driver in the correct podium position

    5. 1 point - Picked the driver in the wrong podium position

    6. 4 bonus point - Trifecta/hat-trick for getting all 3 top drivers in their correct podium positions.

    7. 2 point - Picked the driver in the correct Qualifying position

    8. 1 point - Picked the driver in the wrong qualifying position

    9. 2 bonus point - Trifecta/hat-trick for getting all 3 top drivers in their correct qualifying positions.

    10. 1+ point - picked a driver that finish ahead of its teammate. If both drivers retires, it is whomever done the most laps. If teammates takes each other out (or 2 separate incidents with same lap counts) in the same corner. It is consider a tie. no points are awarded.

    11. We are counting points from your best 19 rounds (assuming a total of 21 rounds, N-2)

    12. no double entries for the same driver (example: can't pick Hamilton for both P1 and P2). penalty for double entry is -10 point.

    13. if there is a tie in team points. Whichever team has the highest finished driver wins.

    14. in teammate war: both drivers must start the race

    PLEASE USE THIS TEMPLATE: if you need to make a change, please copy the WHOLE template. I will use your latest pick. you can always change it before qualifying:
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    Podium:
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.

    Qualifying
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.

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    teammate war
    Hamilton vs. Rosberg (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Massa vs. Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz vs. Kvyat (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Ricciardo vs. Verstappen (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi vs. Vettel (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault

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    Bonus point:
    3 bonus point (maximum) for scoring a driver other than Hamilton, Rosberg or Vettel to finish in the top 3 spots in the race
    (say you pick Bottas for 3rd, he ended up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you get 3 bonus point)
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Ricciardo (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Vettel (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Ricciardo

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault
    Haas

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    Bonus point:
    3 bonus point (maximum) for scoring a driver other than Hamilton, Rosberg or Vettel to finish in the top 3 spots in the race
    (say you pick Bottas for 3rd, he ended up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you get 3 bonus point)
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Verstappen
    4. Kimi

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Vettel
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Verstappen (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Verstappen

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault
    Haas
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Verstappen
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Kimi

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Verstappen
    4. Ricciardo

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Verstappen (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Verstappen

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault
    Haas
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    I accidentally copied too much text in the post below; and, for some reason, I am not able to edit it.

    Please use the picks on the top, and ignore everything else.

    Thanks.
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Vettel
    4. Riccardio

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Vettel
    4. Kimi

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Ricciardo (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Ricciardo

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault
    Haas

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    Bonus point:
    3 bonus point (maximum) for scoring a driver other than Hamilton, Rosberg or Vettel to finish in the top 3 spots in the race
    (say you pick Bottas for 3rd, he ended up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you get 3 bonus point)
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Verstappen
    4. Kimi

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Vettel
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Verstappen (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Verstappen

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault
    Haas
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Verstappen
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Kimi

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Verstappen (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Verstappen

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    Bonus question:
    Haas vs. Renault (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault
    Haas
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Ricciardo (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Raikkonen (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Ricciardo

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    Bonus question:
    Haas (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault

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    Bonus point:
    3 bonus point (maximum) for scoring a driver other than Hamilton, Rosberg or Vettel to finish in the top 3 spots in the race
    (say you pick Bottas for 3rd, he ended up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you get 3 bonus point)
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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Ricciardo (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Vettel (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Ricciardo

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    Bonus question:
    Haas (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault

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    Bonus point:
    3 bonus point (maximum) for scoring a driver other than Hamilton, Rosberg or Vettel to finish in the top 3 spots in the race
    (say you pick Bottas for 3rd, he ended up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you get 3 bonus point)

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    Podium:
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Ricciardo
    4. Verstappen

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    teammate war
    Hamilton
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    Sainz
    Ricciardo
    Kimi

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    driver - best of the rest - Ricciardo

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    Bonus question:
    Haas
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    Podium:
    1. Rosberg
    2. Verstappen
    3. Hamilton
    4. Vettel

    Qualifying
    1. Hamilton
    2. Rosberg
    3. Verstappen
    4. Vettel

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    teammate war
    Rosberg (3 point for Hamilton, 2 point for Rosberg)
    Bottas (1 point for Massa, 2 point for Bottas)
    Sainz (2 point for Sainz, 1 point for Kvyat)
    Verstappen (2 point for Ricciardo, 3 point for Verstappen)
    Kimi (2 points for Vettel, 5 points for Kimi)

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    driver - best of the rest (no Rosberg, Hamilton or Vettel) - 3 point
    Verstappen
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    Bonus question:
    Haas (compare only the top scoring driver from each team) - 3 point for Haas vs. 2 point for Renault

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    Bonus point:
    3 bonus point (maximum) for scoring a driver other than Hamilton, Rosberg or Vettel to finish in the top 3 spots in the race
    (say you pick Bottas for 3rd, he ended up in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, you get 3 bonus point)

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    Points update:

    -Loose Caboose takes top honors with 32 points with podium bonus points
    -everyone incorrectly picked Haas


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    Well, results have changed again, so you may have to recalculate.

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    Oh well . . .


    And at least is wasn't for his uncharacteristic potty mouth:

    Vettel: “Move! Move for [bleep] sake!”
    Vettel: “He’s a [long bleep], that’s what he is.”
    Vettel: “I mean, am I the only one or are you not seeing what I’m seeing? He’s just backing me off into Ricciardo [bleep].”
    Engineer Riccardo Adami: “Charlie said that…”

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    Results are as they are for the time of the podium ceremonies.

    I don't agree on the penalty for Seb, he did leave room for DR, who was completely locked up. But I have to watch it again. I also agree that knowing it or not Max backed him up into Ricciardo, and that wouldn't of happened if Max would have gave up the position.
    But I wonder if Sebs family history includes sailing......

    Lewis should have received the same penalty as max, Nico was bumped off at that point. Let's get rid of the run off areas, put back the gravel traps and Make departing the track have consequences. Cutting that corner never should have been allowed. Maybe an air fence or bollard like in the air races that won't hurt but you if you pop it you go to the back of the pack.

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    I personally believe Vettel got the penalty because of what he said over the radio...
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    Quote Originally Posted by e5pr1t View Post
    I personally believe Vettel got the penalty because of what he said over the radio...
    Tend to agree. Not so subtle message from both Charlie and FIA: Act like a professional

    Meanwhile, should a new category be added to the challenge thus

    How many times Vettel will drop the F-Bomb during the ESPN US broadcast?

    alternatively

    How many times the 4 time WDC will whine about another driver blocking him?

    or perhaps

    Will Vettel will cause a crash and blame it on the driver he it? Y/N
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Tend to agree. Not so subtle message from both Charlie and FIA: Act like a professional

    Meanwhile, should a new category be added to the challenge thus

    How many times Vettel will drop the F-Bomb during the ESPN US broadcast?

    alternatively

    How many times the 4 time WDC will whine about another driver blocking him?

    or perhaps

    Will Vettel will cause a crash and blame it on the driver he it? Y/N
    That would make a good drinking game! (for most races, maybe just coffee, unless you recorded the race)

    I am a big fan of his, the guy can drive. I think we are seeing the same frustration that Alonso kept bottled up while he was driving for the Scudaria, but Seb has not yet mastered how to suppress or channel it.

    on another subject, Max's 5 second penalty: should the drivers expect to be told officially to give a position up, or should they just do it? this assumes the driver suspects himself. Maybe if the order does come from race control, should the penalty should be more severe? this might stop or reduce what we saw at the end of the race, "maybe they didn't see that" type of decisions.

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    What MV did was equivalent to 'stealing is ok until I get caught'. BS. He knew full well he should have given back that position. Unbelievable that race control did not make that call immediately given the SV/DR battle that was evolving. None of this excuses the radio calls from Vettel though.

    MV is truly the golden child of F1 and can do virtually no wrong it seems and SV seems to be the chief whiner. Strange world. Not too long ago SV was the golden child.
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