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    I would never buy a Cayenne on general principles. Porsche shouldn't have ever made an SUV, or a 4-door sedan for that matter (someone really hit that Panamera with an ugly stick!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    I would never buy a Cayenne on general principles. Porsche shouldn't have ever made an SUV, or a 4-door sedan for that matter (someone really hit that Panamera with an ugly stick!).
    All I care about is the best vehicle for the job. I don't give a rats ass who makes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    All I care about is the best vehicle for the job. I don't give a rats ass who makes it.
    A used 2004 Cayenne for $25K is gonna be pretty ratty-ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    A used 2004 Cayenne for $25K is gonna be pretty ratty-ass.
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    My father-in-law has an 06 Cayenne S which came with a V8. It's been very reliable with the only issue is that it or he chews through tires. It's very comfortable with a nice interior. That being said, he says he'll replace it with a Touareg when the time comes.

    An issue with the Trailblazer and Saab both is that believe you could only get them with a 4 speed auto. That sucks for towing.

    I'm considering a Frontier again but who knows how many times I'll change my mind before buying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    My father-in-law has an 06 Cayenne S which came with a V8. It's been very reliable with the only issue is that it or he chews through tires. It's very comfortable with a nice interior. That being said, he says he'll replace it with a Touareg when the time comes.

    An issue with the Trailblazer and Saab both is that believe you could only get them with a 4 speed auto. That sucks for towing.

    I'm considering a Frontier again but who knows how many times I'll change my mind before buying.
    Most forms of tire chewing can be easily fixed if it has an adjustable suspension.

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    So this thread has been going for a while with 125+ posts and a lot of guys who tow their cars to the track have weighed in. It seems like there is no consensus at all. What is the answer to the OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Most forms of tire chewing can be easily fixed if it has an adjustable suspension.
    I think the bigger issue is the weight of the vehicle and he keeps buying the soft rubber tires the dealership recommends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    So this thread has been going for a while with 125+ posts and a lot of guys who tow their cars to the track have weighed in. It seems like there is no consensus at all. What is the answer to the OP?
    My ideal vehicle isn't currently available but if I had to buy tomorrow it would either be a Nissan Frontier Crew cab long bed LE 4x4 or a GMC Sierra crew cab 5.3 4x4. Which ever one my wife likes better. We have a minivan for hauling people so I'd rather a truck than an SUV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard EVO View Post
    So this thread has been going for a while with 125+ posts and a lot of guys who tow their cars to the track have weighed in. It seems like there is no consensus at all. What is the answer to the OP?
    The answer I think is whatever you can get your hands on for cheap that won't break down and can safely handle your trailer and doesn't make you punch your dash on the way to work.

    Until we get baby diesels, I don't think there any tow vehicle is going to be "great". I'd probably try to get a engine from this century for the better fuel economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    I think the bigger issue is the weight of the vehicle and he keeps buying the soft rubber tires the dealership recommends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    While that's funny, it doesn't apply in this case. He's willing to spend the money to have the vehicle perform as advertised. He's not concerned hunting down the best bang for buck tire for his Porsche.
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    All I can say is that Ron White is funnier than Larry the Cable Guy, Bill Engval, and that other white trash fag put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    I just caught this. The Cayenne's are amazingly cheap; 04-05 Cayenne Turbo with ~60k miles for $25k used. This was a $110k vehicle new! Some still have warranties, but can't imagine that these will be cheap to work on or fix once the warranty expires. Also hear they have a very low tongue weight tolerance on the factory hitch.
    Cayenne S may be a better choice, two of my friends had Cayenne Turbo before. One burns oil and the other lost tranny when towing a wrx with open trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemon19mmm View Post
    Cayenne S may be a better choice, two of my friends had Cayenne Turbo before. One burns oil and the other lost tranny when towing a wrx with open trailer.
    And I can even imagine what the repairs would cost

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    Also found out that there is a Nissan Pathfinder with the Titan 5.6 V8. Maybe the winner? Thinking either that or the 4runner at this point, but the V8 is a little weak in the Toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    Also found out that there is a Nissan Pathfinder with the Titan 5.6 V8. Maybe the winner? Thinking either that or the 4runner at this point, but the V8 is a little weak in the Toyota.
    So if only you had read the first response in this thread, your shopping would be done. I learned a long time ago, listen to William, he's almost always right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hakeem View Post
    Also found out that there is a Nissan Pathfinder with the Titan 5.6 V8. Maybe the winner? Thinking either that or the 4runner at this point, but the V8 is a little weak in the Toyota.
    I don't think the engine is weak in the Toyota. I have a 2008 and it has gobs of torque. It's geared for towing as first and second gears are pretty low. It's also a body on truck frame suv (old school) with a single rear axle. It has diagonally cross referenced shocks to control body roll and optional rear air height adjustments. If I'm not driving my truck, I drive the toyota and it's quiet and handles like a car (2WD sport edition). Maybe I'll try towing my enclosed trailer with it this week just to see how it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redtopz View Post
    I don't think the engine is weak in the Toyota. I have a 2008 and it has gobs of torque. It's geared for towing as first and second gears are pretty low. It's also a body on truck frame suv (old school) with a single rear axle. It has diagonally cross referenced shocks to control body roll and optional rear air height adjustments. If I'm not driving my truck, I drive the toyota and it's quiet and handles like a car (2WD sport edition). Maybe I'll try towing my enclosed trailer with it this week just to see how it does.
    The current Pathfinders are also body on frame based on the Titan chassis. The generation before and the next gen were and will be unibodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redtopz View Post
    I don't think the engine is weak in the Toyota. I have a 2008 and it has gobs of torque. It's geared for towing as first and second gears are pretty low. It's also a body on truck frame suv (old school) with a single rear axle. It has diagonally cross referenced shocks to control body roll and optional rear air height adjustments. If I'm not driving my truck, I drive the toyota and it's quiet and handles like a car (2WD sport edition). Maybe I'll try towing my enclosed trailer with it this week just to see how it does.
    Just looking at stats the Toyota is ~300ft/lb vs 390 in the Nissan. The Pathfinder is also a truck frame.

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    I have tow-tested the Cayenne S and the Touaregs, one with the same V8 as was in the Porsche and one with the diesel. All of them were far better than I expected. But they were brand-new vehicles. My first concern is always how the vehicle will age. Load-leveling independent rear suspensions are great, but they can be pricey to fix, and IRS SUVs are worthless—and borderline unsafe—as tow vehicles if the system doesn't work.

    As I have said before, I prefer pickups for a couple of reasons 1) the passenger compartment is separate from the cargo area; I don't have to smell gas jugs and rubber on the way to and from the track, and 2) I can carry messy things in the bed (engine parts) and just hose it out when I get home; 3) bulletproof solid axle and leaf springs; 4) they are incredibly handy to have for everyday suburban life.

    I have towed with the Tundra, Titan and all the domestics. Properly equipped, they all do the job well. Your choice inevitably will boil down to personal preference.

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