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    Anyone seen the RAM ProMaster yet? sort like the Sprinter but FWD, allows them lower floor much like a mini van...

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    Quote Originally Posted by granth View Post
    Anyone seen the RAM ProMaster yet? sort like the Sprinter but FWD, allows them lower floor much like a mini van...

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    I believe the van is Italian. One thing to put up with Italian reliability driving a glorious sounding Alfa or Ferrari. But an Italian working truck ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    I believe the van is Italian. One thing to put up with Italian reliability driving a glorious sounding Alfa or Ferrari. But an Italian working truck ?
    Yeah Fiat=Fix It Again Tony

    but sounds like they have been making these for sometime and the US based version is made in Mexico right along side the RAM trucks in Mexico.

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    Based on the Fiat Ducato commercial van, Ram will offer the 2014 ProMaster in three wheelbases with two ceiling heights, a gasoline V6 or 3.0-liter EcoDiesel turbo-4 and more configuration and equipment possibilities than you can shake a stick at. It's an upfitter's dream come true.

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    I'm saving my tow vehicle viginity for a Colorado/Canyon with a 2.8 Duramax diesel, quad cab and 4x4. One car(truck) to do it all: daily, tow, BOV, etc.
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    What about that

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    I'm with Force. The more I see these Canyons, the more I want one, and I'll wait for a diesel. 6,700-pound towing capacity and smaller than a half-ton truck. That would fit my future needs nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucfbrett View Post
    I'm with Force. The more I see these Canyons, the more I want one, and I'll wait for a diesel. 6,700-pound towing capacity and smaller than a half-ton truck. That would fit my future needs nicely.

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    There are rumors that the diesel will be tow rated at or above 7000. It's on my short list as well. When do the gassers go on sale anyway?
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    Production should be starting right about now, so I'm thinking the gas models will be available pretty soon. I'm very interested in a Quad Cab duramax Colorado. 30mpg highway and great styling. Pretty much a truck to do it all like Force said.
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    That is a nice looking truck indeed. The more I see it the more I want it...

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    200hp / 370 tq The colorado isn't bad either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    There are rumors that the diesel will be tow rated at or above 7000. It's on my short list as well. When do the gassers go on sale anyway?
    They're leaving the Wentzville, Mo.. factory this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redtopz View Post
    I like your "ideal" truck. This has been my daily driver and tow vehicle for the past 6 years and 140,000 miles:



    . . . . My daughter will start driving it this year when she turns 16.
    Very nice - both the truck and your daughter's first driving experience part!

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    Probably not the most functional, but I always liked the "El Cam" as a potential street cruiser/tow machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Force McCocken View Post
    I'm saving my tow vehicle viginity for a Colorado/Canyon with a 2.8 Duramax diesel, quad cab and 4x4. One car(truck) to do it all: daily, tow, BOV, etc.
    Why not RAM 1500 EcoDiesel as an option?

    Only 240hp, but 420lb-ft of torque.

    Dimensionally, the RAM 1500 quad cab with 6'4" bed is less than 5" longer than the Col/Can crew cab with 6' 2" bed, 1.6" wider and has the exact same wheelbase. Leg room is 41"/34.7" front/rear in the RAM versus 41.7/35.8 in the Col/Can.

    Compact pickups the Col/Can are not, but they likely will weigh a whopping 1100lbs less than the fat boy RAM.

    We finally have options in the mid/full-size category that will be capable of over 20 average mpg- the EcoDiesel has 23.03 average mpg on Fuelly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Caboose View Post
    Probably not the most functional, but I always liked the "El Cam" as a potential street cruiser/tow machine.

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    I had one. It was cool, but I only owned it for a year. I missed fuel injection and modern — read, comfortable — seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOneThreeCoupe View Post
    Why not RAM 1500 EcoDiesel as an option?

    Only 240hp, but 420lb-ft of torque.

    Dimensionally, the RAM 1500 quad cab with 6'4" bed is less than 5" longer than the Col/Can crew cab with 6' 2" bed, 1.6" wider and has the exact same wheelbase. Leg room is 41"/34.7" front/rear in the RAM versus 41.7/35.8 in the Col/Can.

    Compact pickups the Col/Can are not, but they likely will weigh a whopping 1100lbs less than the fat boy RAM.

    We finally have options in the mid/full-size category that will be capable of over 20 average mpg- the EcoDiesel has 23.03 average mpg on Fuelly.
    The big problem with Ram 1500s is their payload, it's tiny. The higher the content the lower the payload which can be as low as 900 pounds for a 4wd Mega cab or whatever it's called. It becomes nearly impossible to use as a tow vehicle when you consider tongue weight. The mid-sized GMs are in the 1500 pound range for payload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOneThreeCoupe View Post
    Why not RAM 1500 EcoDiesel as an option?

    Only 240hp, but 420lb-ft of torque.

    Dimensionally, the RAM 1500 quad cab with 6'4" bed is less than 5" longer than the Col/Can crew cab with 6' 2" bed, 1.6" wider and has the exact same wheelbase. Leg room is 41"/34.7" front/rear in the RAM versus 41.7/35.8 in the Col/Can.

    Compact pickups the Col/Can are not, but they likely will weigh a whopping 1100lbs less than the fat boy RAM.

    We finally have options in the mid/full-size category that will be capable of over 20 average mpg- the EcoDiesel has 23.03 average mpg on Fuelly.
    That extra weight is was turned my off. I read a few reviews and it said the RAM eco diesel felt a little porkey, while the reviews on the Canyon and Colorado were the opposite. Even the gas V6 version of the colorado/canyon will push 25 MPG highway. I'm expecting the diesel version will probably be 30 MPG highway. With EFI live, it will probably be even more

    Taken from Autoblog:

    Before even officially going on sale to customers, the GMC Canyon and Chevrolet Colorado midsize pickup twins are already proving to be a success with dealer orders exceeding original projections. Now, there is even more good news for these siblings, with the fuel economy for their four-cylinder engines netting class-leading numbers and the 3.6-liter V6 getting segment-best payload ratings.

    The 2.5-liter four-cylinder in the two trucks makes 200 horsepower and 191 pound-feet of torque, and in rear-wheel drive and six-speed manual trim it has an EPA rating of 19 mpg city, 26 mpg highway and 22 mpg combined. Opting for a two-wheel drive configuration with the six-speed automatic bumps those figures slightly to 20 mpg city, 27 mpg highway and 22 mpg combined. Finally, a four-wheel drive model with the automatic 'box carries a 19/25/21 rating. Those numbers are a tick better here and there compared to what's offered by the optional V6.

    The twins' major four-cylinder, midsize pickup rivals are the Toyota Tacoma and Nissan Frontier, but they're both getting somewhat long in the tooth. To compare fuel economy and power, a two-wheel drive Tacoma with its 2.7-liter four-cylinder is rated at 159 hp and 180 lb-ft, and achieves 21/25/22 mpg. The Frontier with its 2.5-liter four-cylinder is good for 152 hp and 171 lb-ft, and carries 19/23/21 mpg figures.

    The V6 payload ratings are also class leading, with the Colorado rated at 1,590 pounds and the Canyon at 1,620 pounds. According to parent General Motors, the 30-pound deviation is due to different curb weights for the models.

    The Colorado and Canyon are already on their way to dealers. Scroll down to read the full fuel economy announcement about these midsize trucks
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    2:00.01 @ CVR CW - 9/28/13 (350whp, RS3)
    1:48.22 @ ACS - 11/23/13 (400whp, RS3)

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    when are they standardizing towing capacity ratings ?
    I thought it is coming very soon. it is kind of pointless comparing different tow capacity now, when it isn't standardized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by granth View Post
    Anyone seen the RAM ProMaster yet? sort like the Sprinter but FWD, allows them lower floor much like a mini van...

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    Very smart. This could be a big winner in this segment. In addition to convenience, it should be lighter, have a lower center of gravity, and perform better in cross winds.

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