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    Is it possible we don't have a trailer tire thread? I know there have been at least one on various FB groups but I didn't find anything here.

    I'm always keeping an eye out for deals on good trailer tires - currently for our travel trailer but should work for car hauler too.

    Is there a brand you like? Dislike?

    We currently have Goodyear Marathons on our TT and I'm not terribly impressed. We've already lost one of the 4 in a matter of months to a cut. I'd like to find something tougher to replace the rest. I'll also likely go to E range from the D range that the trailer came with.

    These Hartland tires look promising. I think I've heard good things about them but I couldn't find the info. I like their price and speed rating.

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    Maxxis also seems to make good trailer tires and since I grew up in Carlisle, I need to mention them as well.
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    Maxxis have proven the toughest and longest lasting. Goodyears trailer tires are junk. Direct experience.
    There is an odd brand, Gladiator that actually makes a good trailer tire. I literally threw away three Goodyears after overheating failures and uneven wear took the other 2 out. Settled on Maxxis M8008 8 plies for my 18.5' enclosed and they look to last like 3x as long.
    My 42' gooseneck came with 12 ply 16" Gladiators. When they die, I'll switch to Maxxis M8008.

    Don't be put off by the hokey sounding name. The Gladiators are the best value outside of the Maxxis M8008.
    Also, I was running the M8008 long before Supermiatas relationship with Maxxis and I pay for my trailer tires.
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    I have used these Kumho 857 radial with ZERO problems, also "D" rated.
    Lord knows how many miles I have on them and they still look and feel great.
    I do keep my dolly inside, have to think that helps.

    Not able to speak for other brands

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    It was the Gladiators that Emilio mentioned that I was thinking of and not the Hartlands. Thanks. I just missed an extra good deal on the Maxxis, I'll have to keep my eyes out for another deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Don't be put off by the hokey sounding name. The Gladiators are the best value outside of the Maxxis M8008.
    How many heat cycles do you get on them?


    In all seriousness are you guys who have problems at the upper limit of the tires load capacity? I use really cheapo chinese no name tires without issue and never had a flat but I'm well under the limits just with my vette on an open trailer. The tires sit in the sun and cooks the sidewalls and after some time they look to the point I'd change them even if the tread is still good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbillybob View Post
    In all seriousness are you guys who have problems at the upper limit of the tires load capacity?
    The Goodyears and no name Chinese that were on my 18.5 enclosed were nowhere near their rated limits. The wear was so uneven I actually replaced an axle thinking it was bent. When the fresh tires did the same thing I realized it was the tires. Did some research online and saw the M8008's were something of a gold standard.
    Got a set and was not surprised to see the uneven wear problem vanish. As a bonus, the M8008 was the only radial available in a 8 ply in my size which allowed another 15psi inflation pressure which improved trailer stability and tread life all in one.

    I forget the exact story on the Gladiators but it was the owner of a big tire distributorship on the west coast that commissioned the tire from Carlisle as a private label. The intent was to make a high quality tire to compete with the M8008 but at Goodyear prices. It's sorta like the Toyota of trailer tires, no bling, just function.
    Gladiators are well known amongst old time tire industry folk. Dan Howard, the guy I brought on as sales manager late 2016 is a tire industry guy and had the same knowledge experience as me regarding trailer tires. Basically M8008's if its in your budget, Gladiators otherwise.
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    Looks like the M8008 is avaiable in multiply plys in each size. I have 225/75R15 which comes in 8 or 10 ply. How do you pick the ideal ply rating?

    If I change to 205/75R15, will this effectively lower my trailer an inch and maybe help with aero drag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b3d3g1 View Post
    Looks like the M8008 is avaiable in multiply plys in each size. I have 225/75R15 which comes in 8 or 10 ply. How do you pick the ideal ply rating?
    My understanding is that you choose based on your trailer axle weight ratings/needs. My TT has two 5k pound rated axles so I like to have tires rated at >2500 pounds each. The GVWR of my TT is less than 10k pounds so my tires will still have some headroom even if they're rated at just 2540 each.

    More plies also seems to mean tougher tires and higher psi but also more $.
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    I just go with the highest ply rating available. More psi means more stability, cooler running and longer lasting tire.

    To be blunt, I simply throw money at it because I deplore changing trailer tires on the way to the track out in BFE.

    Other stuff
    -Service my trailer hubs about every 8000miles and put new bearings in about every 15k
    -Carry one spare tire for short trips, two spares for long trips
    -Carry two spare backing plate, brakes, drum, hubs, bearings and all tools needed to swap in the field
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    I'm surprised to hear about problems with Goodyear Marathons. I put a set on my enclosed at the beginning of last season and they still look brand new, although I didn't really do a huge amount of towing miles last year. I settled on the Goodyear after doing a few U-haul trailer rentals and noticing that every U-haul trailer I could find was on Marathons. I figured that said something about their reliability.

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    Discount tire is currently running a promo of $100 off $450...... on their ebay site. works on both wheels or tires.

    Carlisle trailer tires are a bit too cheap, kinda scare me.....with the coupon, it is under $45 shipped for my trailer......umm...
    shipping with them is free.

    coupon code is CTIRES317

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
    Maxxis have proven the toughest and longest lasting. Goodyears trailer tires are junk. Direct experience.
    There is an odd brand, Gladiator that actually makes a good trailer tire. I literally threw away three Goodyears after overheating failures and uneven wear took the other 2 out. Settled on Maxxis M8008 8 plies for my 18.5' enclosed and they look to last like 3x as long.
    My 42' gooseneck came with 12 ply 16" Gladiators. When they die, I'll switch to Maxxis M8008.

    Don't be put off by the hokey sounding name. The Gladiators are the best value outside of the Maxxis M8008.
    Also, I was running the M8008 long before Supermiatas relationship with Maxxis and I pay for my trailer tires.
    Do you happen to know the speed rating for the Maxxis M8008? I can't seem to find it listed anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_5 View Post
    Do you happen to know the speed rating for the Maxxis M8008? I can't seem to find it listed anywhere.
    lol...why ? I really would like to know why you need to know speed rating of a trailer tire ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    lol...why ? I really would like to know why you need to know speed rating of a trailer tire ?
    I just want to know if they're safe to go over 65 mph occasionally. I'm going to AZ in a couple of weeks and they don't have a trailer speed limit if memory serves me. The Carlisle HD tires have an 81 mph rating and Maxxis says on their site that the M8008 are "high speed" but doesn't list a rating.
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    Here's my response from Maxxis:

    "The Maxxis M8008 ST Radial is "Q" speed rated. However, according to the Tire and Rim Association, the U.S. tire industry specification authority, inflation pressures and load specifications in general for any ST Radial trailer tires, without a service description, regardless of the manufacturer, are designed and rated at 65 MPH. If the speed is higher than 65 MPH, the pressure and load need to be adjusted according to the following guidelines:
    From 66 to 75 MPH – the tire inflation pressure needs to increase 10 PSI (not to exceed the maximum PSI the tire is rated for) but requires no load adjustment.

    From 76 to 85 MPH – the tire inflation pressure needs to increase 10 PSI (not to exceed the maximum PSI the tire is rated for) and load should be reduced by 10%.

    We hope this information is helpful. Thanks for your inquiry and interest in Maxxis Tires."

    Edit: I ordered the Maxxis tires. Thanks William for finding the deal. Thanks everyone else for your feedback.
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    Eric: didn't know that.... thanks for the info.
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