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    Quote Originally Posted by bellwilliam View Post
    and they are nowhere as reliable as a 997.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawareca View Post
    Whoaa
    haha, you are from a BMW world... I've owned 3 BMWs. z3, z4 and an E90 M3. I would say 997 is x2 times more reliable than a z4, x3 times more reliable than a z3, x5 times more reliable than a M3
    997 parts price on par with z3, and about 1/2 the price of a M3.
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    If he liked the Miata but wasn't one to put the top down, I'd say GT86/BRZ. They'd seem to be a good analog in that they are sporty, get good mileage, not hard to drive around town, and not badly priced. Go in, negotiate a 7 year extended warranty with the deal, and he literally doesn't have to turn a wrench on it until 2026 at the earliest.

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    Car recovered less wheels and a few other things... nevermind!
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    Damn, I knew I bought that last set of wheels cheap!
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    How did we get from a miata to a $40k 997?

    The large IMS bearing was installed in late 06 so I would look for 2007 or later cars. First Gen 997s should also be checked for over Rev events and box scoring. Very few engine have box scoring but it's still thousands to repair. Then there are the more common wear items such as broken gearshift cables, water and fuel pump failures, worn control arm bushings, leaking radiators, etc.

    The 997 is reliable by Porsche standards but it's still not a Honda. A pre-purchase inspection by a competent Porsche shop is a must. Or buy it from car max with a warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversprint View Post
    How did we get from a miata to a $40k 997?

    The large IMS bearing was installed in late 06 so I would look for 2007 or later cars. First Gen 997s should also be checked for over Rev events and box scoring. Very few engine have box scoring but it's still thousands to repair. Then there are the more common wear items such as broken gearshift cables, water and fuel pump failures, worn control arm bushings, leaking radiators, etc.

    The 997 is reliable by Porsche standards but it's still not a Honda. A pre-purchase inspection by a competent Porsche shop is a must. Or buy it from car max with a warranty.
    I disagree.. 06+ 997 non-S is already sub $30k, and have been for few years now. better IMS bearing was installed in late 05, so 06+ is fine.
    it aint no Toyota reliable. but it is a LOT more reliable than BMW, VW, Mini, Mercedes...all those issues you mentioned, fuel pump, worn bushing and leaky radiator, that's a BMW thing for last 20 years.
    as for over-rev. that's a thing of ALL manuals, not just Porsche. just because you can check it on Porsche, doesn't make it any less reliable.

    997 is basically a 996.2. 996 have been reliable other than the IMS issue. 06+ 997 IMS issue is insignificant, and 997 is more reliable than a 996
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    From rennlist

    https://rennlist.com/how-tos/a/porsc...erblown-383755

    Which Models Were Affected?
    The IMS bearing issue is a carryover issue from the 996 model. The earlier non-Carrera S 997 models had the same basic engine as the 996, hence, the same issues.

    Most late 2005 and early 2006 997 models are included and, as mentioned earlier, a very small percentage of those cars were affected. But if there is doubt in your mind, most experts completely rule out any IMS bearing failure on 2007 and newer 997 models, as some engine components were updated and no incidents have been reported so far. If you happen to be in the market for one, remember that a Porsche CPO warranty could be a good idea, possibly helping you sleep better at night. So far this is not a reason to pass up on your long-awaited Porsche acquisition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robburgoon View Post
    Car recovered less wheels and a few other things... nevermind!
    I heard there has been a big uptick in Miata thefts in north and south California recently. Glad your father's was recovered (relatively) intact!
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    If you read it carefully along with other articles. What they meant was early 05 have issues but late 05 and 06 have very little issue as they went to double row. LMS makes a kit for up to early 05.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silversprint View Post
    From rennlist

    https://rennlist.com/how-tos/a/porsc...erblown-383755

    Which Models Were Affected?
    The IMS bearing issue is a carryover issue from the 996 model. The earlier non-Carrera S 997 models had the same basic engine as the 996, hence, the same issues.

    Most late 2005 and early 2006 997 models are included and, as mentioned earlier, a very small percentage of those cars were affected. But if there is doubt in your mind, most experts completely rule out any IMS bearing failure on 2007 and newer 997 models, as some engine components were updated and no incidents have been reported so far. If you happen to be in the market for one, remember that a Porsche CPO warranty could be a good idea, possibly helping you sleep better at night. So far this is not a reason to pass up on your long-awaited Porsche acquisition.
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